I debated whether to post this; the graphic nature will offend some viewers, who are advised not to click on the video if the still image is disturbing.
On the other hand the violence itself is not shown - just the aftermath. And it's real - not a video or movie FX. Such accidents have happened in industry since Victorian times, and most likely on medieval and prehistoric battlefields before that. Survivial for even a brief period requires a crushing injury rather than a cutting one - an event that seals the aorta and vena cava. The event also documents the remarkable role of endogenous opioid endorphins.
The video is unutterably sad for the man's activities - his futile efforts to close the wound or rebutton his shirt, and for the (lack of) activity of the bystanders, although it's hard to know what practical responses they could have made.
The man reportedly died shortly after being loaded into an ambulance.
Update: A similar case with a better outcome -
The photo is of Peng Shulin, who was cut in half by a large transport truck in 1995. More details at this link. I'm still trying to figure out whether this is the same man as in the video, but even if it's not, his case shows that survival is possible despite the overwhelming trauma - a testament to the resilience and recuperative power of the human body and spirit.
A tip of the hat to roydgriffin for finding the link to Peng Shulin's story.
Second update: The second man is apparently different from the first one.
Third update: A November 2009 report on further progress by Peng Shulin, who has now opened his own bargain supermarket - a "half-price" store.
I'm not easily shocked EVER. But, please, don't do that again. I wish I wouldn't have watched it.
ReplyDeleteMaybe in the future, you could tell what the graphic video is and then make a link to it without posting the actual photo.
Too much to handle for me. And I never say that.
Thanks.
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DeleteNot even a team of skilled surgeons could possibly do anything to help this poor guy. I can't imagine anything the bystanders could do to make him comfortable while he died either. Look at this and then imagine what EMTs see on a regular basis and give them thanks and praise.
ReplyDelete@Anonymous
ReplyDeleteApparently, you didn't read a single word of the post before looking at the video.
Is there any more information about this? what happened to him? how long did he live for?
ReplyDeleteI obviously watched it and I would watch it again, but you really should have put the video "below the fold"... for people like the first anon.
How incredibly sad. The victim's tone doesn't sound as distraught or shocked as I might've expected, but then again, I don't understand what he's actually saying.
ReplyDeleteYou'd like to think his brain is flooded with endorphins and whatnot and that he's in shock so has next to no idea what's going on... At least you'd hope not.
DeleteMaybe you could have linked to that video rather than had that still up there??? I agree with Anonymous at 12:04, I rarely find anything too much and this is pretty screwed up. Not what I expect from this blog, pretty disappointing to see it. I know there's messed up stuff in the world and I force myself to see a lot of it but this seems out of place here. My 2 cents.
ReplyDelete@the first Anonymous -
ReplyDeleteI tried to give "fair warning" in the text; sorry you didn't take heed, but I'll use this opportunity to warn you (and others) that this may happen again.
TYWKIWDBI is created for adults* and for state legislators listening to boring speeches. The content will occasionally depict violence or nudity when there are educational, artistic, or other redeeming aspects to such items.
I should also warn you that while I avoid obviously unsafe sources, some of the sources I do link to may have content beyond my link that is NSFW. Also when I link to home pages, the content at the link may change by the time you click through to it.
*although I know of some mature 13-year olds who visit here.
I don't know how badly he was injured, but since he hasn't lost consciousness over the time the videa lasted, I think no major blood vessels were damaged and thus he could still be living today. It would lead to an hemicorporectomy, or amputation of the whole lower body. It has only been reported a few dozen times in medical literature, but it does exist.
ReplyDeleteNot a fan of stuff like this. I didn't watch the vid and would prefer not to have seen the screencap. Sure the graphic nature is unpleasant, but I think that the idea of suffering as spectacle is even more nauseating to me.
ReplyDeleteThe thing is, I'm pretty much sure that even if you had put the video below the fold, people would still have reacted the same way... You can't help watching, it's exactly like slowing down when driving next to a car accident...
ReplyDeleteThe "good news" is that I doubt that he was feeling much pain. He appeared to be in shock, and his spinal cord was severed.
ReplyDeleteI remember hearing a NY police officer say one time that sometimes someone will fall onto the subway tracks BETWEEN the train and the platform, and the pressure will twist the body around in such a way that irreparable damage is done. He said that the person remains conscious and talking as long as they leave them twisted. So they will contact the family and bring them down, and let them say goodbye. When they untwist the body, the person bleeds out and dies within minutes. I imagine that this is similar to that situation, but the severing "crushed" the arteries and sealed them, so there was no bleeding out. I think that the previous poster was correct that there is a slim chance that he could be alive today.
What I found really sickening was that not a single person knelt down to him and held his hand and talked to him while they tried to get help there and get in touch with his family. Where was the humanity? It seemed at the end of the video that a woman finally bent down and spoke to him. You couldn't have dragged me from his side. I would have held his hand until help came, or he died, but I wouldn't let him lie alone like that. Sad.
Quite frankly, I don't know if I would be able to hold someone's hand in such circumstances. Not only would I fear to hurt him, but I couldn't stand being so close to someone's bowels hanging out like that. I can understand compassion, but not to the point of unrealistic behaviour.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the ambulance had been called, and maybe someone in the crowd had had the good idea to make people stand far from the poor guy so that he good breathe a little bit better, and not get any infection from the people around. Who knows?
wtf! shocking!
ReplyDeleteHe made it!
ReplyDeleteDid you see the other link, right after the video?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f5f_1187419884
He learns how to walk again with new, artificial legs.
I am pretty shure its the same guy, if you compare his face in the video, also he is asian.
I shure hope its him!
The video made me really feel sorry for him!
@nfmgirl - the "untwisting" phenomenon you have heard of is not caused by blood loss; it's a type of reperfusion shock that happens when blood flow returns to crushed tissue. The blood then flushes out the potassium that leaked from the crushed cells, and the high potassium causes sudden death when it reaches the heart.
ReplyDeleteThere wouldn't be a risk of such in his case because the dead tissue is lying in the road next to him, not attached to his body.
The embedded link goes to liveleak, the comments indicate he's a Vietnamese policeman, somehow hit by a truck.
ReplyDeleteAnd as dispassionate as the crowd may seem, it reminds me of what an ex-pat friend of mine said about Thailand - that if you see an accident - and there's nothing you can really truly do to help (that will be 'worth it' - do NOT stick around. When the authorities arrive anyone hanging around will be detainable and if you have the most potential money, say for example you are an American - they stick you with a bill. And possible blame. Bill, payoff, shakedown, whatever. You will be in Deep Shit. Talk about "socialized" care! (Of the police.) They all drive like MANIACS and less accidents happen than seem possible, they happen - as counterintuitive, countercompassioinate (countervoyeuristic) as it may be - Do Not Linger.
I don't think it's quite like that in Vietnam, but let's not rush to judge conditioned behavior, or different culture behavior, even if it is being filmed.
At least he probably was not in any pain.
AND - that guy couldn't be Pen Shulin, he is Chinese and had his accident in 1995 I believe. [The Google Knows.] Poor Vietnamese policeman is undoubtedly dead, RIP.
ReplyDelete@nfmgirl
ReplyDeleteThe people you are referring to that are trapped between subway cars and the platform suffer from "Crush Syndrome" which ultimately results in acute renal failure and subsequently death. The renal failure is caused by the chemical byproducts from the breakdown of muscle tissue due to the injury. More at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crush_syndrome
It is questionable as to weather or not this man is dead or not. With a transection such as this, exanguination is usually the cause of death, however given the type of injury, the amount of blood shown in the video is surprisingly small.
In some cases of amputation, after the injury has occurred the blood vessels involved "snap" back into the tissue almost like a rubber band that has been cut. This can help control the bleeding and is why you often see very little blood in certain amputations. The larger the vessel, the less effective this is, but I can't help but suspect that might have happened in this case. Moving him from that spot without causing damage would be extremely difficult though...
@nfmgirl (and Minnesotastan)--there was an episode of Homicide: Life on the Street in 1993depicting this very situation. The guy is trapped for almost the entire show, while the cops talk to him and medics try to keep him comfortable. They pull the train off him at the very end and pull him out, and he dies a minute or so later.
ReplyDeleteI watched it and was sorry I did; it had a sickening hangover I didn't expect. Wasn't that gory, it was more a function of imagining what you weren't shown.
The actor who played the man caught between the platform and the train, Vincent D'Onofrio, is now the star of Law and Order: Criminal Intent, which I can't watch because he reminds me of the earlier show.
Needless to say, I didn't watch the video here and would prefer not to have seen the still shot. I do think you should have put it below the fold, Minnesotastan. It's not a matter of not being "mature"; some of us are just unpleasantly sensitive to such things. Nothing we can do about it.
I am done, 100% done, with your blog! Awfulness I would have never expected from you... and you cannot justify it by rattling off the medical/anatomical/physiological terminology you seem to have acquired somwhere - you revolting rubbernecker. You should be ashamed of yourself for diseminating such astonishingly pitiful saddness. Hmmmmm. "a crushing injury rather than a cutting one - an event that seals the aorta and vena cava." Really ?! Fascinating Doctor. Simply fascinating. Then again, what should I expect from someone with absolutely NO appreciation for the abstract-expressionist art of OUR 20th century? Perhaps you should go back and look at some more high-resolution old photographs. Or wait! Maybe now you're just heading off to your backyard to look at a couple-a purdy butterflies. So it's all good. How lovely... Sorry, but I feel betrayed and violated. I'm done with you. Later dude.
ReplyDeleteI find this whole "denouncing" the blog thing bizarre. Anyone is free to peruse or not peruse, write or not write, what they like. What is strange is the feeling people have for announcing publicly that they are never coming here again.
ReplyDeleteYes, that image was jarring. It was so jarring to me that I did not watch the video. I made a choice.
Minnesotastan made a choice to post the video, with warnings.
I suppose everyone has their choice to read or not read the blog, but I feel bemused at the offense people take to this, as if it was something designed to personally insult them.
I don't think any personal offense was meant at all.
For what it's worth, good on you, Stan. I enjoy the use of your freedom of speech.
Another indication that the man in the video is not Peng Shulin: around 2:07, a cell phone is clearly visible. True, they were around in 1995, but I'm sure that particular design came later.
ReplyDeleteI appreciate you sharing this, Stan. Very disturbing, but also very fascinating.
How is no one doing anything about it?!
ReplyDelete@Swift Loris:
ReplyDeleteVincent D'Onofrio also played Private Pyle in Full Metal Jacket, another character whose fate is decidedly grim. Seems like a trend in his earlier acting days.
@nfmgirl and Swift Loris - I think this was also the fate of Mel Gibson's wife in the opening scenes of "Signs."
ReplyDeleteI'm 100% with Dave, on this one. I've enjoyed this blog greatly, but it's over for me. I've seen enough of this mutilation voyeurism on other blogs. I hardly expected it here.
ReplyDeleteA David and Rusk
ReplyDeleteGrow up and smell the coffee
I was so shure that the cell could also be a hint to 1995, because I used a similar one in the late 90s,
ReplyDeleteand Asia is generally a few steps ahead in the Mobile phone Industry.
Then the accident of Peng Shulin was the same as this poor guy's. The face seemed very alike too...
I just wanted him to have survived..
Too bad he might have not...
Thanks for putting Peng Shulin's story on you blog anyway Minnesotastan!
I am quite new to your blog, and I find it very interessting!
Of course some violent pictures and videos are nothing for the faint-hearted, but most may agree that death is one of the most interesting topic for the living, and I mean death in every aspect.
Some time ago I saw a video of two mountain climbers who where filmed when they suddenly fell into certain death. Of course it was very shocking, but seeing the last moments of a human being is undeniable something you (fortunately) don't wittness very often, unless its part of your job, and therefore, without meaning to be macabre, very interesting.
Well its just my opinion, and I am for shure no brainsick person.
What I'm trying to say is you should'nt accuse Minnesotastan for putting this on his blog. Also he gave a fair warning, as he always does with content of this caliber.
Excuse my partial bad english, I am from Austria and it has been a while since english classes...
Don't let those who denounce your blog put you off, Minnesotastan - I've been a regular reader for years and will continue as such.
ReplyDeleteI LOVE this blog. That said, please leave the shockingly absurd gorefests to rotten.com.
ReplyDeleteThis is the shit that nightmares are made of.
Morbid curiousity gets the best of us sometimes. It's a fact. I just wish it wasn't there in the first place, so I wouldn't have had a choice!
It's like telling me not to push that big red button. UGH.
This is the most shocking thing I have seen on a blog in a long time, perhaps ever.
ReplyDeleteWhile I wish that I had not started the video, I did. I can't honestly describe the way it has left me feeling, even though I only got through about 60 seconds of it. I am in shock.
I am not sure I'll be able to visit the blog again until the still photo is off the main screen. It's truly horrendous.
Minnesotastan, keep it up.
ReplyDeleteIt was hard to watch for me, true. But on the other hand you wanred me. :)
Blogger curious said...
ReplyDelete"A David and Rusk
Grow up and smell the coffee"
I'm trying, mang. Someday I'll be hardcore, just like you.
"Then again, what should I expect from someone with absolutely NO appreciation for the abstract-expressionist art of OUR 20th century?"
ReplyDeleteHilarious! Good ol' Dave, disagree with his sensibilities and he flounces off in high dudgeon.
No loss.
CCL
I did not watch the video because watching another person die seems like the worst form of voyeuristic pornography. I don't know why this was posted on this website, one that I have looked at with my children (never again), It is so vulgar that i never thought it would be on TYWKIWDBI. Sure you gave a warning that the video was porno but what about the still photo? It is just as bad. Please take this down if you have any decency at all.
ReplyDeleteto Daniel - unless you shield them all the time, the odds are your kids have seen much worse then this in movies, in comics, on television. There it is fantasy. Maybe if they see that it happens in real life they will realize that such things are not funny or cool.
ReplyDeleteMaybe if more people saw things like this they wouldn't be so quick to send their neighbors children off to war.
I think the blogger just wants to let this thread die, but I'll step in.
ReplyDeleteDaniel says this picture of a man injured in a car accident is "porno." I'll bet you a nickle that every week Daniel takes his children someplace where they see an image of a man with nails driven through his hands and feet, and he considers that to be an uplifting experience for them.
Peng Shulin accident happened in 1995.
ReplyDeleteAt these times, cell phones have not camera...
So it can't be the same man.
Noone said and there's no way to know this film was taken by a cellphone camera. It might just as well ahve beentaken by a regular video camera. So that doesn't prove anything.
ReplyDeleteI call B.S. on all these complainers about the violence and the graphic nature of this video. It was maybe two weeks ago that this blog posted the video of a smashup while texting (http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com/2009/08/anti-texting-while-driving-road-safety.html) and the typical comment there was what a wonderful thing it was to show violence in a good cause. nobody complained about the graphic violence there because it was for a good cause.
ReplyDeleteI agree with somebody above that if our government didn't ban photos of our soldiers getting their legs blown off and even just the pix of a soldier walking on an artificial leg - that this war would have been over long ago. Violence is being done in your name and with your tax money every single day in the middle east, and you sheep just let it go on, then you complain here about a car accident. Get in touch with the real world for crying out loud.
Duane
I found this video rather interesting, actually. As someone who works in the health industry, I have a rather hight tolerance to gore, so that aspect doesn't bother me. But I agree with some of the other people who commented, that the lack of interaction from those around him is unsettling.
ReplyDeleteYes, the still from the video is upsetting, but you didn't need to watch it. Life isn't always pretty, some things in life are distressing. That's life.
I'll definitely still be visiting - I love this blog! There is always something interesting and I don't believe this was posted to be voyeuristic. Keep up the good work.
Kylie, Australia.
Daniel,
ReplyDeleteI would bet my house that you support the Repubs and this god awful mess of a war, don't you? We westerners are so sheltered from the real world and how horrible this kind of stuff looks it's no wonder we are hated all over the globe. Why would you watch something like this with your children is beyond me and leads me to believe you are either A.) A shitty parent B.) A moron C.) Someone who likes to find things on the web and bitch about their pornographic nature, or D.) All of the above. I am leaning towards D... You need to open your eyes and stop being such a follower. Enjoy you labor day in sheltered suburbia...
I may have been warned not to watch the video, but had no option but to see that awful image - something I would never have done by choice.
ReplyDeleteThat image will stay with me forever.
Disappointing.
As shocking as the images are, I don't think it is voyeuristic in this case. No one who watches this is enjoying it; rather every one feels compassion.
ReplyDeleteBut we are so busy with our own lives anyway that it takes gory images like this to make us feel compassion or to want to 'hold his hand'. What about the people we see in our lives who are battling with illness or depression, or the beggars in the street whom we hardly look at, because there are so many of them ? What about our elderly relatives whom we hardly ever visit ?
What I will take from this video is not the harsh images, but rather the courage of this man who, albeit in a state of shock, managed to stay relatively calm in the face of death. It could have been absolutely anyone of us in his position.
He most probably didn't survive... may he rest in peace and may God give strength to his family.
Please everyone take care on the road. Peace.
ok this is in Vietnam.
ReplyDeleteInjured guy said something about he doesn't want to live. Bystanders doesn't know what to do. They said only the cops/officials can do something. By standers were asking him to give them a number so they can call his family. The man is clearly in shock, that's why he keeps on touching his gut. If you noticed one man tried to put a cell on his chest so he can dial the number. A lady in the crowd tells him to plead to god to save him. Pled to god to save his soul. he repeated and she said Louder... she then said "Oh god.... "(poor thing) that's all i can hear besides the honking. Based on his uniform it seems like he works for the government. The communist had taken over Vietnam. The government takes others life like a bug. They robbed the churches, beat the priest and injured nuns.
Shocking clip. I can only pray for him
Thanks for posting this Minnesotastan. The world should not be censored from reality, good or bad.
ReplyDeleteI was sickened by the picture then absolutely horrified to see the victim move, and understand he was still alive. But what brought me to tears were all the voyuers scrambling to get their pictures of his sufferings and that not one knelt down by his side and held his hand, or touched his face to let him know someone was there to be with him in his time of need. Thanks to the translator who shared that the bystanders were doing what they could to help him, but I wish someone would have just held him as we all would wish to be held if that was us on the ground. Very upsetting for this lack of apparent compassion.
ReplyDeletecan you believe the people just taking pictures while hes laying there. those people have no respect at all for life. they are sick and need to get cut in half.
ReplyDeletethis shows how far humans can endure. that is amazing. one day, you could be blown apart, and if your brain is unaffected you will come out looking fine.(you probably wont have legs, but be thankful.)
ReplyDeletehe lived.the man with the artificial legs is him.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f5f_1187419884
that man is probably wondering why the hell is he still alive and awake- he keeps on feeling for something down there.. what a nightmare.
ReplyDeleteyou know what? why are people acting like they're soo disgusted and offended. Face the facts, horrible things like this happens all the time in this media-censored world, and you can either learn from it, or be willfully ignorant to it. Its up to your own discretion.
ReplyDeleteThis blog is a great way to open people's eyes to the real world.
And others can just pretend like its not happening.
hi my name is tung. for the record THIS MAN DID NOT SURVIVE. THE CHINESE GUY WITH ROBOT LEGS SETUP IS SOME OTHER GUY. this vietnamese cop on the video died moments after being loaded in a cab to go to hospital. its pretty strange in this age of "information" every forum ive seen this on has this simple fact wrong. just becasue they are both "asian" as a roydgriffin said it must mean theyre both the same. do u realise how stupid u sound lol? ones vietnamese and the other, the peng guy, is chinese. i doubt he was even involved in a car crash as hes now opened up a shop using his accident for publicity ("half"price store or somesuch)
ReplyDeletethe viet cop here dies and prolly in the most horrible way i can imagine. like a prev poster said its more the rubberneck aspect i find nauseating than the horrific injuries. i havent seen the video and made a conscious decision to ignore it when everyone here in saigon was showing it around. out of curiosity a woman yesterday offered to show me it and so my curiosity awakened again.
the still image isnt as bad as id imagined (i have a vivid imagination) but i do feel sorry for him. maybe its in the viet psche and is a reason they can bounce from the suffering in the country's past but they arent as compassionate or sympathetic a arce as whites. chioldren getting beaten and yelled at is common and ive seen women bashed in the street where ppl all look on but noone steps in. combine this w a nosy (or inquisitive depending on what side of the fence ur on) and u get the result of a bunch of bystanders filming a guys last moments to post on the net and no one offering a hand. the ppl are a bit harder as a rule. of course they show kindness (they are human) but have a harder edge than white ppl. i dont know if they needed to be this way to survive wars etc in their history but its one aspect i admire in some whites. they have a lot of compassion. maybe thats a reason asia hasnt moved on to be as powerful as european nations. ppl are very family-centric and donmt offer much to outsiders. hence the culture and society doesnt improve much w/o outside influences/education. -tung nguyen
I just looked this up and it is Peng Shu Lin. He was cut in half by a transport truck in 1995, look it up if you don't believe me!
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, it's disgusting how everyone is talking to him and staring at him but no one at all is comforting him.
HI ITS TUNG AGAIN.
ReplyDeletethe second guy is peng.
the first is a VIETNAMESE COP who died after 5 minutes after the video.
...why is this so hard to understand? pay attention and read carefully:
THEY ARE/ WERE TWO DIFFERENT PPL!
(THE VIET COP DIED 5MINS AFTER VIDEO TAKEN).
one is a chinese national the other a VIETNAMESE policeman as you can tell by the green uniform.
he died in vietnam, was never operated on by chinese and didnt even survive the trip to hospital.
lol and they call this the "Information Age"- when ppl can confuse two totally separate events cos the guys involved happen to be 'Asian'.
last time i checked asians consist of about 4 billion of the worlds population or 60% of earths ppl lol.
I didn't know this blog before. And I watched the video. At first I was quite shocked. But then I read the comments and agree with those readers who find it appropriate to embed it in the blog.
ReplyDeleteUntil now I thought that such a severe injury does result in instantaneous death. Obvoiusly not in every case as I know now.
Special thanks to Tung Nguyen for his comment on the psyche of the Vietnamese people.
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ReplyDeleteGood Lawwwd! Oh My Goodness! WTH is he doing with his innards?? Why is he fidgeting with his skin???? LAWWWWD!! OK, now that I got that out.. I must admit that I am fascinated with medical files, situations, etc.. and found this not only 'educating' but horrifying as well. I must admit that it did something incredibly positive for me..I was very VERY depressed lately, as I have had some hard times. I even contemplated the "S" .. thing.. and since I saw this video.. I WANT TO LIVE!!!! Thank you for sharing this truly realistic yet shocking reality of life and it's dangers. I have been changed forever! Thank you!
ReplyDeletesorry, the guy in the video is not the guy in the picture, peng shulin is a chinese man, the guy in the video is vietnamese, people around him are speaking vietnamese not mandarin at all
ReplyDeleteI have never seen anything so awful; seeing an image so graphic and heartbreaking was disturbing. I am actually trying out for the police department this week and I hope that I never have to witness something that terrible, though I won't likely be able to avoid it. If you text while you drive you should watch this video and I think that the guy who killed this man should spend the rest of his life in prison.
ReplyDeleteWe live in times of peace in the Western World, we are not used to such horror. My parent's generation who fought in WW 2, would be more accustomed to such scenes but we are not. My mother who was bombed for 2 years in Northern Italy had similar experiences.
ReplyDeletePeople would be talking to you one second then would be sliced in half by bomb shrapnel the next, their hands still clinging to the fence. Fighter planes strafing along a road would create pretty much the same scenes with their fifty calibre guns. Long live peace.
I agree with the posts above. Disturbing and sad. The lack of compassion is shocking. Though I gotta say that looking at the video I started to wonder, what would I have done there? It's easy to criticize observing the moment from our laptop, but honestly standing there in the situation, one might feel so shocked that it makes you stagnant. If the guy would have been cut from the legs it might be different..? I mean my first thougt was 'He must be dead'. When he moved his hand I thought 'even if he's alive, will he survive? are his injuries irreparable?' Of course one should call 911 without hesitation no matter how badly injured the poor guy is. Also the fact that they didn't go near him is that it's just simply so disturbing, they don't dare. The thing I don't understand, is the fact, that they wanted to take photos of him lying down there helpless. I only wonder what the man was thinking. Wait, I don't have lower half of my body? What a nightmare.
ReplyDelete"He made it!
ReplyDeleteDid you see the other link, right after the video?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f5f_1187419884"
That's not the same person you idiot. That was another case.
To those who are offended that people are assuming it's the same man because both are Asian. Yes, there are 4 billion Asians on this planet, but how many people get cut in half? It's the ACCIDENT that makes them unique, not the Asian appearance. If they both had white skin and blond hair, the same assumption would still be made; that they are the same man.
ReplyDeleteER nurse weighing in here. The video is FAKE. I’ll list the clues: #1: the man is severed at the level of vital organs, yet for at least five minutes is fully conscious, talking, waving his arms and even doing practically full sit ups to view the injuries. In reality he’d be dead within 30 seconds from massive blood loss just from the femoral artery being ripped off his body. This is a main artery and when it’s severed, you’re dead in 30 seconds unless someone is there within seconds to apply a tourniquet.
ReplyDelete#2: Notice how tattered the point of severing is in his lower half off to the side. Yet note how much cleaner the “cut” is in his upper half. The two pieces do not fit, and there is no nearby other remains that can fill in the points of severing to make them fit. One is tattered and the other is a clean cut. That makes no sense.
#3: Notice that the cut line of the lower half is very angled, yet the cut line of the upper half is more vertical. Again, the pieces do not match. They are not two pieces of a puzzle that fit together. Another clue is that the length of his legs does not match the length of his upper body-- The legs are in once piece from foot to point of severing, but the whole piece is too short.
#4: If this is fake, how is the Peng Chinese guy for real, then? I reviewed other photos of Peng. He was amputated further down. The point of amputation from an accident is always lower than the final surgical result. Judging on one of the photos of Peng, his amputation, at the time of accident, was probably below pelvic level, retaining some of his legs, if just stumps. This would have been enough for a bystander to apply a tourniquet to the femoral arteries. The bystander would have had to act very fast, but I can see how Peng survived. The point of severing (according to one very clear, front view photo) was not at organ level, but below the organs, possibly below the pelvis.
#5: If the video is a hoax, why is it set in Vietnam? Because part of the hoax is the reaction of bystanders, and this kind of reaction would never fly as believable in a highly developed country like the U.S. But it’s more believable in a developing country, and that’s why the hoaxer set it in Vietnam rather than the streets of New York or London.
ER doctor weighing in here. You're sacked nursie.
DeleteAvulsed his iliacs and likely bleeding voluminously into his (smashed) pelvis. Barely survivable injury even if sustained on the doorstep of a major Western trauma centre. Hope his family have managed to avoid seeing this. Poor bugger.
For an ER nurse you show a startling lack of understanding of the pathology of amputation injuries.
ReplyDeleteThe video is real.
Stunning video! It is unfortunate that the man died when he could have survived his injuries. Apparently, help came pretty late. My deepest condolences to his family and loved ones.
ReplyDeleteI wish someone had held his hand or something...
ReplyDeleteI actually stumbled across this by accident, of sorts. I have been studying the type of injuries sustained in fatal plane crashes for a physics class I am taking. Reading some of the comments, I feel as though you certainly gave fair warning about the content of this video, and your criticism of "Daniel" is probably dead on accurate. I don't understand people at all. I was much more upset at the reaction of people on the street, but I assume they though the situation was futile. I also assume the reaction is societal. I presume to hope that I would have tried to offer the victim here some degree of comfort in his last minutes alive....but I don't know. This video is not about gore or "porn"...at least that is not what I got out of it. It simply made me think about the human condition is severe situations. And yes, it takes a certain maturity to handle which, unfortunately, many adults do not possess. Thanks. CJT, Palm Beach FL.
ReplyDeleteI am glad to know that a person able to survive a catastrophic injury. As for the bystanders, some cultures are different than others.Some cultures have members not looking at our touching one another. When that's the case, even the victim would find it awkward to have his hand held. Personally, I wonder why someone didn't cover his lower half with a shirt or blanket.
ReplyDeleteif its true, how does this guy takes a dump?
ReplyDeleteHe probably has a colostomy.
DeleteThis ER nurse imao knows jack lol this was a crush injury notice he slowly bleeds out as the video progresses.
ReplyDeleteI watched this a year or so ago and i was also shocked at the lack of commpassion from the on lookers...and while i have a strong stomach i wish to never to see something like this again.
From what i have found out this poor guy lived for 40 minutes and he must have come out of shock as he phoned and said his goodbyes to his family before he died RIP
I have worked in forensics for 32 years and I still cannot stand to watch this. I can take anything when the person is not suffering. It is the suffering that bothers me in this video. I wish I hadn't watched it. Poor man. This is going to sound crazy, but I had the feeling that someone needed to quickly put him out of his misery.
ReplyDeleteJust tell yourself that this is why we have endorphins.
DeleteIt breaks my heart to see the results of road accidents when it can be avoided if only the people on the road were more responsible. My condolences go out to the victim's family. I thought I'd also share www.deathletters.org as hearing stories of people going through the same ordeal could greatly help ease the pain even if it's just a bit.
ReplyDeletewhat kills me about this video, is the guy keeps looking down at his waist, as if he is in disbelief, as if it's just a terrible nightmare. he probably is so out of it and so confused. that must have been such an awful way to go.
ReplyDeleteALSO WHO WAS THE PERSON WHO DID THAT TO HIM???!!
RIP.
Never cesses to amaze me.All the people stated that if he had done it in another way.....da de da da.Funny thing is they complain but that they ALL watched THEN complain DONT LOOK AT IT THEN.He tells you from the get go it may be too much for some people and maybe should not watch how much more you need if YOU watch after this its on you that you watched.....people still look for someone else to blame for thier own free will actions.
ReplyDeletewhat never ceases to amaze me is how, when things like this occur, everyone's first thought is to whip out a cell phone and capture the images. Who offered to sit by the man and try to comfort him or to cover the lower part of his body so he would not have to see what had happened to him?
ReplyDeleteSick Sad World.