tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post8198003260913053671..comments2024-03-28T23:22:41.774-05:00Comments on TYWKIWDBI ("Tai-Wiki-Widbee"): Irish horses being slaughteredMinnesotastanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-68553611576188307982011-04-04T15:18:05.354-05:002011-04-04T15:18:05.354-05:00Eat meat that tastes good when prepared correctly....Eat meat that tastes good when prepared correctly. Bottom line. Squirrel, hamster, dog, horse, cow, whatever.<br /><br />Making distinctions is like drawing a line in water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-29916443487049358322011-03-27T11:59:36.689-05:002011-03-27T11:59:36.689-05:00I guess I'm going to be one of the sole voices...I guess I'm going to be one of the sole voices of dissentation, but I would not consider eatting horsemeat. I've worked amongst horses, rode them and cared for them; I find them to be somewhat different. I guess it's something I am effected by, being someone who grew up horse-crazy, learning to ride, being around horses, living in what some might consider "horse country". <br /><br />Of course, I have to add, to the people considering on eatting horse meat, would you consider eatting dog meat or whale meat to offensive, even though in many parts of the world, it's consider a part of traditional cusine or no different than eatting chicken or beef in the U.S. <br />Here's an article on dog meat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat<br /><br />Here's another on lists of animals consumed by humans (also note that primates, including humans are on there): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_meat_animalsCloudSampsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05459873067554831037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-63444543297434035552011-03-27T07:32:08.007-05:002011-03-27T07:32:08.007-05:00The "special relationship" thing is some...The "special relationship" thing is something I don't understand. I live in an area with a good number of small farms. I've known several people with "pet" cows, bottle fed, that would follow them like dogs around the farm. I've personally known cows that were very sweet and enjoyed human company. Will I still eat beef occasionally? Yes.<br /><br />If intelligence is an issue then there's even less justification for eating pork. Pigs are fairly intelligent, more than horses by most estimations.<br /><br />I really don't think either is a good reason. Neither is beauty, since few farm animals can compare to a jersey calf. It comes down to taboos.<br /><br />As far as I'm concerned there's an amount of unpleasantness in eating any animal. I don't see huge distinctions from one ungulate to another. They're "meant" to be prey.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05703008684052999988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-49413668900660365472011-03-26T21:25:53.438-05:002011-03-26T21:25:53.438-05:00I couldn't eat horsemeat because the horse has...I couldn't eat horsemeat because the horse has a special relationship with humans. That's one difference between horses and cattle. Intelligence is another. But the awful conditions these horses are subjected to should shock even people who eat horsemeat.Barbwirenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-18668588264661697332011-03-26T16:00:04.080-05:002011-03-26T16:00:04.080-05:00Why's it ok to slaughter cows, but wrong for h...Why's it ok to slaughter cows, but wrong for horses? I never understood that. They're both ungulates that live in herds with a harem-style male dominance. If you eat beef I don't see why you'd have a problem with this.<br /><br />I've never had horse. I'd probably try it if it was done as a burger.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05703008684052999988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-3596836695271220342011-03-25T20:32:50.663-05:002011-03-25T20:32:50.663-05:00Horsemeat is common (Hrossakjöt) in Iceland, but t...Horsemeat is common (Hrossakjöt) in Iceland, but they are Icelandic Horses, akin to Shetland Ponies. Horses and Sheep are beloved by the people of Iceland, but they enjoy eating them as well.Professor Battyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09802171986501104683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-61177792257524611802011-03-25T17:28:15.570-05:002011-03-25T17:28:15.570-05:00Related : The Rubberbandits created some controver...Related : The Rubberbandits created some controversy in Ireland with their video where the protagonist uses a horse as an actual mode of transportation, presumably because he is too broke to afford a car. Strangely enough it is best explained <a href="http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-satirists-attacked-by-people-who-totally-missed-point_p2" rel="nofollow">here by cracked.com</a> (you will have to scroll down a bit to see #1).nolanddahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12708768497461983779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-51029983564103038732011-03-25T14:54:28.882-05:002011-03-25T14:54:28.882-05:00Some interesting insights; I hadn't thought ab...Some interesting insights; I hadn't thought about the phenylbutazone aspect. Thanks, Mel.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-43517398524857901132011-03-25T14:46:08.721-05:002011-03-25T14:46:08.721-05:00It's an issue in America, too. There are no eq...It's an issue in America, too. There are no equine slaughterhouses inside America - but there are in Canada and Mexico. So low-value horses get shipped hundreds of miles(usually in double-decker trailers designed for cows, severe injuries and deaths on the trailers are common)and often wind up in very, very nasty examples of slaughter facilities. Here's a good article that lays out the situation as of 2008: http://www.avma.org/onlnews/javma/jan08/080115a.asp It's only gotten worse since then. <br /><br />There's a very strong movement among American horse owners trying to get this situation changed. Some of it is people repulsed by the idea of eating an animal we consider a pet, but most of it is because of the extremely inhumane conditions. Hopefully the situation in Ireland is different, they seem to have a stronger tradition of small scale, local butchers.<br /><br />The other concern is that horse meat shipped to Europe and Japan is usually sold as 'American Mustang meat, 100% natural'. That's not true - it's all coming from former racehorses or showhorses, the vast majority of which have been medicated with substances that make it unsuitable for human consumption. (The most common example is bute, which is aspirin for horses, but toxic to humans.) I'd stay away from horse meat for that reason alone.Mel V.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-49236502820807945152011-03-25T14:40:05.046-05:002011-03-25T14:40:05.046-05:00Here in South Florida there was a spate of horse s...Here in South Florida there was a spate of horse slaughtering, but the horses being killed were not abandoned or killed by their owners, but by thieves who sold the meat on the black market. I live in the town of Davie, which has a cowboy history and many people still own horses. Some of these folks were patroling their paddocks and barns with guns. <br /><br />The police caught some of the people responsible but I'm not sure if they have gone to trial yet. I believe they will be charged with grand theft, but I'm not sure if they will be charged with violating any animal cruelty laws. The thieves would bring down the horses in the pasture, take what meat they wanted and leave the rest to rot in the field.<br /><br />I'm not sure if horse meat is legal in the state of Florida, but I'm sure that the method of procuring the meat met no state statutes for health and sanitation.<br /><br />I know it's a cultural thing for me, but I have to admit I was secretly hoping one of those thieves would meet up with an armed, enraged horse owner. I'm not yet evolved, evidently.Cathy Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-67303779502833993922011-03-25T13:45:20.785-05:002011-03-25T13:45:20.785-05:00I'm surprised by how squeamish most North Amer...I'm surprised by how squeamish most North Americans are about eating horse meat. Having spent many years in Europe, I can tell you firsthand that it is delicious - very lean and not at all gamy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-62740028133585677872011-03-25T13:17:18.483-05:002011-03-25T13:17:18.483-05:00Anon, I think you're right re the terminology;...Anon, I think you're right re the terminology; I've modified the post accordingly.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-40316157975758170352011-03-25T13:07:22.055-05:002011-03-25T13:07:22.055-05:00We do eat horse meat in France, I didn't know ...We do eat horse meat in France, I didn't know it wasn't the case elsewhere.<br /><br />Also, I'd like to point out that these horses don't face euthanasia, but slaughtering. Euthanasia is supposed to relieve pain. This is kind of a sensible subject so I'd rather people made the distinction ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-63543409438455828022011-03-25T13:02:26.888-05:002011-03-25T13:02:26.888-05:00I don't know what's wrong with eating hors...I don't know what's wrong with eating horse meat since I never, to my knowledge, have done so. I expect that it would be perfectly edible, although it might require some special preparation if it's tough or strong tasting. Probably a lot better than kangaroo anyway.bigjohn756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-62038883863250406182011-03-25T10:54:01.775-05:002011-03-25T10:54:01.775-05:00Very sad. Not just horses being abandoned either ...Very sad. Not just horses being abandoned either - the pet shelters are full.<br /><br />We don't eat horse meat, so it must all go to the continent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com