tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post744444749776942649..comments2024-03-27T18:20:38.176-05:00Comments on TYWKIWDBI ("Tai-Wiki-Widbee"): Swiss "Verdingkinder" and American "orphan trains"Minnesotastanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-40929707377200910472012-02-04T22:18:52.850-06:002012-02-04T22:18:52.850-06:00Stonemaven
The legal age that a kid can get a Wor...Stonemaven<br />The legal age that a kid can get a Work Permit is at age 14[i got my Work Permit and first warehouse job at age 14, back in 1983]. But he/she isnt able to work in some jobs for a variety of reasons.<br /><br /> Construction jobs often involve power tools. And i think that the age for using power tools is 16[i could be wrong]. And many convenience stores no longer hire anyone under 18, because in many states no one under 18 can sell cigerattes or lottery tickets.<br /><br />Pete from BaltimoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-41551206306683780082012-01-30T09:54:51.032-06:002012-01-30T09:54:51.032-06:00You know, this type of migration of children was d...You know, this type of migration of children was done for centuries - try googling "Schwabenkinder" (cf. short Wiki entry on that topic).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-81322470063769294122012-01-24T16:00:36.607-06:002012-01-24T16:00:36.607-06:00also, there is a BIG difference between helping ou...also, there is a BIG difference between helping out as society expects on your family or community farm or getting paid to work during the school holidays at a young age (and developing skills that may be useful in your future), and being taken away from your family or familiar environment and being forced to work and treated cruelly and not being offered a useful future from that work.Jen in Oznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-82046044481809034232012-01-24T15:55:48.402-06:002012-01-24T15:55:48.402-06:00Having read only the first paragraph of this post,...Having read only the first paragraph of this post, my thoughts flew to two Australian movies about parts of our country's history of which many Australians are ashamed: Rabbit Proof Fence (about Aboriginal children "The Stolen Generation" who were taken from their parents and made to work in similar situations to these Swiss children), and Oranges and Sunshine (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1438216/) about English children who were sent to Australia and made to work, again, in similar conditions, often in Catholic boarding schools. This is the first time I've heard of this happening in other countries though.Jen in Oznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-10596627778907703212012-01-23T16:37:43.020-06:002012-01-23T16:37:43.020-06:00Fred, here's some info on modern detasseling -...Fred, here's some info on modern detasseling -<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detasseling<br /><br />- but I don't know the details re how it's done here. Good question, though. I'll ask next summer when we go to the local farm to pick up our sweet corn.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-70855715526280160002012-01-23T16:07:05.535-06:002012-01-23T16:07:05.535-06:00I was born in Wisconsin where we raised bees for a...I was born in Wisconsin where we raised bees for a living and everyone helped out as soon it was possible to do so. It was hard sweaty work, but the experience has been a huge benefit for me even though I work a white collar job. During the summer many of the kids, city and farm, would work detasseling corn to earn extra cash. This wasn't that long ago, 70's and 80's, I don't live there anymore so I don't know if the corn detasseling is still done by hand or who does the work.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00253675739926180608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-27564230472388958482012-01-23T10:09:54.994-06:002012-01-23T10:09:54.994-06:00Can you legally hire a kid under 16 in the city or...Can you legally hire a kid under 16 in the city or suburbs? Other than babysitting or mowing/raking a lawn? In the country you can get away with skirting the child labor laws.Stonemavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07379953318010297056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-82940837647949200182012-01-23T10:06:44.208-06:002012-01-23T10:06:44.208-06:00Here in Texas, kids still work on the farm/ranch. ...Here in Texas, kids still work on the farm/ranch. My husband learned to drive a tractor when he was 5 or 6 on the dairy farm and helped with the milking before school every morniong. I was a town girl,(the town being a community of 1,400) but still had to weed the vegetable garden for mom and grandma. Our 10yr old is just learning, now that we've moved out of town. Local kids here work cattle, feed, help in the gardens, and haul hay for their parents in the summers. You can't hire kids to haul hay any more (costs too much $$$) but you can make your own do it! It is just part of their chores. Luckily, they don't get pulled form school for harvest and end school at Jr High as they did in Grandma's generation! She (now 97yrs old) tells of being pulled from school for spring planting and not getting to go back until after Thanksgiving - unlike the town kids who started in September and stayed until May.Stonemavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07379953318010297056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-66734866906186473332012-01-22T10:48:22.301-06:002012-01-22T10:48:22.301-06:00The children I was thinking of are suburban youth....The children I was thinking of are suburban youth.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-79598979067379989572012-01-22T09:40:54.258-06:002012-01-22T09:40:54.258-06:00You shouldn't generalize so much. Perhaps you&...You shouldn't generalize so much. Perhaps you're thinking more of suburban youth, but most farm kids are still expected to help out with the daily chores. I didn't grow up on a farm, but my brothers and I still were expected to help out with household chores and get a job as soon as we were able. I'm sure it's nothing like it was in the past, before the child labor laws of today, but I don't think we're the "deprived" youth you picture us to be.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16309302581078420616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-75422188169468882842012-01-21T21:35:02.831-06:002012-01-21T21:35:02.831-06:00I'm really glad my daughters all helped around...I'm really glad my daughters all helped around the house and on their grandparents' ranch. All babysat, cleaned houses, and had part-time jobs when they were old enough. We had some tough times financially, and they gained real insight into "real life". I think it was very positive for them, and they agree.Barbwirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17375742473254773675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-48101299092750261272012-01-21T18:57:05.124-06:002012-01-21T18:57:05.124-06:00Another dirty little secret the Swiss would love t...Another dirty little secret the Swiss would love the rest of the world to never find out about. Like their endemic xenophobia and racism, their laundering of God knows how many trillions in dirty money over the years, and their vaunted "neutrality" that somehow doesn't preclude their manufacturing and sale of sophisticated weaponry to the highest bidder. Neutral, my ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-83397295776721018812012-01-21T15:51:58.130-06:002012-01-21T15:51:58.130-06:00Here in rural France it is still a bit the same. C...Here in rural France it is still a bit the same. Children 8yrs old driving huge Tractors and ploughing fields and really chuffed to be doing it.<br />Even on British farms over here the kids are expected to muck in and help.<br />That is the original reason for school holidays.<br />In Scotland when I was a lad there was the Tattie Holidays when the kids helped lift potatoes.frenchfarmernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-32091648796418727122012-01-21T14:00:20.028-06:002012-01-21T14:00:20.028-06:00A few years ago I spent some time in a former Sovi...A few years ago I spent some time in a former Soviet Bloc country of Eastern Europe where it was quite normal for children of farming families to help look after the animals, assist with the harvest and so on. This was purely pragmatic, not political. A neighbour's 14 year-old daughter used to harness a pair of stallions and drive them. Young boys herded sheep and drove them to be milked. From what I saw, the children were proud of the skills that they gained, and they tended to be capable and confident. I also saw mentally handicappped children and adults in the villages helping their families with simple tasks, in that way being an integral part of society and feeling valued. Of course "health and safety" in the West would now stop children from doing "adult work", though I saw very few injuries and mishaps out east.White Horse Pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18256903307281225327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-15497045433185041382012-01-21T11:32:59.285-06:002012-01-21T11:32:59.285-06:00Please don't anyone forward this link to Newt ...Please don't anyone forward this link to Newt Gingrich.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com