tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post5122235534334073157..comments2024-03-28T12:17:44.126-05:00Comments on TYWKIWDBI ("Tai-Wiki-Widbee"): Remember those "runaway Toyotas" ?Minnesotastanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-41587262576467595162010-07-18T13:02:17.522-05:002010-07-18T13:02:17.522-05:00Interesting link, Amy. Here's one FAQ answer ...Interesting link, Amy. Here's one FAQ answer from it:<br /><br />We determined that someone with access to the internal network in the car could use his or her own computer equipment to take over a broad array of safety-critical computer systems.<br /><br />For example, in live road tests, were able to forcibly and completely disengage the brakes while driving, making it difficult for the driver to stop. Conversely, we were able to forcibly activate the brakes, lurching the driver forward and causing the car to stop suddenly. We were also able to control the lighting within the cabin, the external lighting, the vehicle's dash, and so on...<br /><br />We stress that all our experiments focused on what an unauthorized party could do if they had the ability to access the car's internal network (e.g., via physical access to the car). For example, that unauthorized party might plug in a computer to the standard OBD-II diagnostic port under the dash. Clearly the risk in this scenario is low — it implies that someone already has physical access to the car — which is one reason we think consumers should not be alarmed by our results.<br /><br />But our concern is that the increasing use of externally facing wireless interfaces may increase the risks for future vehicles and provide a way for someone to remotely access the car's wired network.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-76209110996576202332010-07-18T12:54:33.805-05:002010-07-18T12:54:33.805-05:00"Frankly, I didn't realize that today'..."Frankly, I didn't realize that today's cars have "black box" data recorders." This may be of interest to you: http://www.autosec.org/publications.htmlAmynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-2551766624356869232010-07-18T11:26:08.818-05:002010-07-18T11:26:08.818-05:00Yes, there is some precedent for their use in cour...Yes, there is some precedent for their use in court and determining fault for insurance purposes:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_data_recorder#Use_as_evidence_in_courtsnolanddahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12708768497461983779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-63617809429894051542010-07-17T09:26:17.251-05:002010-07-17T09:26:17.251-05:00Mark, I hadn't seen that argument before, only...Mark, <b>I</b> hadn't seen that argument before, only the official Toyota line. Thank you for posting it.Noumenonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01597461989960782762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-43273339454811906162010-07-16T19:36:02.506-05:002010-07-16T19:36:02.506-05:00People have questioned the data; read the linked a...People have questioned the data; read the linked articles.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-75916913358705362892010-07-16T19:10:52.297-05:002010-07-16T19:10:52.297-05:00I'm surprised no one has questioned the validi...I'm surprised no one has questioned the validity of the blackbox data. The firmware that is reading the states of the foot peddles is also writing the blackbox data. If the firmware *thinks* you pressed the accelerator, it is going to log exactly that. It still doesn't mean that the user actually pressed the accelerator!<br /><br />There is a conflict of interest!Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05337533198347182909noreply@blogger.com