tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post2319618265595511222..comments2024-03-28T12:17:44.126-05:00Comments on TYWKIWDBI ("Tai-Wiki-Widbee"): How are the fingers enumerated?Minnesotastanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-86342349010498784252012-03-16T10:31:55.335-05:002012-03-16T10:31:55.335-05:00Excellent suggestion, CherryMetal. :.)Excellent suggestion, CherryMetal. :.)Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-74187993721119722592012-03-16T10:14:24.613-05:002012-03-16T10:14:24.613-05:00Not on counting, but would any horseriders confirm...Not on counting, but would any horseriders confirm that the reins would be held in this hook? I assume the prosthetic would be worn by the gentry (riding) classes? The shape looks kind of horsey to me...CherryMetalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-28802032395696986402012-03-08T08:01:06.615-06:002012-03-08T08:01:06.615-06:00... referring to the location of a wedding ring. ...... referring to the location of a wedding ring. Thank you, Donkey Lasher.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-75111808128805464442012-03-08T02:02:09.820-06:002012-03-08T02:02:09.820-06:00I don't think this an transatlantic distinctio...I don't think this an transatlantic distinction<br /><br />Myrna Loy starred in "Third Finger, Left Hand" in 1940. <br /><br />Martha and the Vandellas sung "Third finger, Left hand" in the mid sixtiesDonkey Lashernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-69672050665890697672012-03-07T22:57:41.865-06:002012-03-07T22:57:41.865-06:00In legerdemain, coin-palming, and sleight-of-hand,...In legerdemain, coin-palming, and sleight-of-hand, the first finger is the index, second finger the longest, third the ring, etc. How it's always referred to in Bobo's. Of course, he was French, which might be part of it.James Cominshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17988734252520359140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-71663655754634526532012-03-07T16:47:32.756-06:002012-03-07T16:47:32.756-06:00UK born and bred here. I think that generally, in ...UK born and bred here. I think that generally, in the context of counting on our hands, we commonly use both thumb=1 and index=1 (with thumb as five, after the fingers) methods, depending on personal preference. <br /><br />For me personally, if I know I'm counting to five or more, I'll start with my thumb, if it's a smaller number (or I'm thinking aloud) I'll start with my index finger. Though I never noticed that before just this moment!<br /><br />Additionally, I would say that we do generally tend to use finger names (thumb, index, middle, ring and little) instead of numbers, unless - as mentioned above - we're using a schematic system such as piano or violin playing, etc. Also, if I was asked to point to my 'first finger' I would point to my index finger; similarly second, third and fourth as middle, ring and little. But I would not be at all confused by someone starting with the thumb as '1', as long as there was enough context to grasp the difference.<br /><br />What I mean to say is that, with the additional information of the image, I doubt anyone was confused by the meaning of the phrase "third and little fingers". Even though it's not a system you may be familiar with, it's not completely confusing. Having the picture there makes it all clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-78069428131661114432012-03-07T16:03:16.966-06:002012-03-07T16:03:16.966-06:00Saiint Bede was a monk historian who also populari...Saiint Bede was a monk historian who also popularised the A.D we use today.<br /><br />From:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bede#Use_of_Anno_Domini<br />Bede used both these approaches on occasion, but adopted a third method as his main approach to dating: the anno domini method invented by Dionysius Exiguus.[82] Although Bede did not invent this method, his adoption of it, and his promulgation of it in De Temporum Ratione, his work on chronology, is the main reason why it is now so widely used.Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-40894330184639748152012-03-07T16:02:35.964-06:002012-03-07T16:02:35.964-06:00Thumb is called, simply, "the thumb"; ne...Thumb is called, simply, "the thumb"; next to it are the first (pointing) finger, second (middle) finger, third (ring) finger, and fourth (pinkie) finger. Born in Washington State with no known Brits in my family tree and three generations back before you find immigrants.Wayne Conradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595005905880642013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-12989798728276992472012-03-07T15:52:47.806-06:002012-03-07T15:52:47.806-06:00This part might be worth further reading:
"A...This part might be worth further reading:<br /><br />"A very similar form is presented by the English monk and historian Bede... which allowed counting up to 9,999 on two hands, though it was apparently little-used for numbers of 100 or more. This system remained in use through the European middle ages, being presented in slightly modified form by Luca Pacioli in his seminal Summa de Arithmetica (1494)."Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-82700612707658984532012-03-07T15:48:12.358-06:002012-03-07T15:48:12.358-06:00England does it differently.
http://en.wikipedia....England does it differently.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger_countingDavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-66033273060814080842012-03-07T15:23:55.267-06:002012-03-07T15:23:55.267-06:00Ya'll haven't completed counting:
http://...Ya'll haven't completed counting:<br /><br />http://boingboing.net/2011/11/16/six-finger-toy-commercial.html<br /><br />And we thought rap (listen to the commercial) was a recent invention.<br /><br />Lurker111Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-62949449213979677652012-03-07T14:47:58.298-06:002012-03-07T14:47:58.298-06:00Nice reference link, BJN.Nice reference link, BJN.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-20236401903862489552012-03-07T14:46:04.995-06:002012-03-07T14:46:04.995-06:00Interesting dichotomy; thank you, Garrett.Interesting dichotomy; thank you, Garrett.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-83387803862174452992012-03-07T14:12:54.561-06:002012-03-07T14:12:54.561-06:00For pianists, the thumb is numbered one and the pi...For pianists, the thumb is numbered one and the pinky is numbered five. For violinists the pointer finger is one and the pinky is four.Garrett Sawyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-59534368037324157812012-03-07T14:01:03.833-06:002012-03-07T14:01:03.833-06:00In anatomy (particularly comparative anatomy), the...In anatomy (particularly comparative anatomy), the phalanx (fingers) are designated by roman numerals. "I" is the thumb and "V" is the pinkie. <br /><br />This numeral system is used to designate the homologous bones between species. In the case of the panda's "thumb", that bone doesn't get a numeral since it's not homologous to the phalanx or finger digits of other species.<br /><br />http://www.athro.com/evo/pthumb.htmlBJNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-73135479067564642362012-03-07T13:45:48.580-06:002012-03-07T13:45:48.580-06:00I would consider the ring finger the third finger....I would consider the ring finger the third finger. I would discount the thumb as being defined a finger as it is anatomically different. If you want to talk digits though the ring finger is the fourth digit. I don't know if it is a regional thing but I am from the original OC (in New York :)striderannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-11163156034541109882012-03-07T13:41:37.477-06:002012-03-07T13:41:37.477-06:00Search of Google Books suggests that, at least bef...Search of Google Books suggests that, at least before 1900, "first finger" in piano instruction books always referred to finger A, never to the thumb. (Typical example: "The thumb is very rarely crossed by the first finger, never by the fourth." Karl Merz' piano method: a complete course of instruction for the pianoforte (1885))<br /><br />I have not checked more recent books.Mark Dominushttp://blog.plover.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-73965858705306765022012-03-07T13:04:55.539-06:002012-03-07T13:04:55.539-06:00In my OR in the US, the thumb is #1, the pinkie is...In my OR in the US, the thumb is #1, the pinkie is #5. But a lot of the surgeons use the names as well, or instead of, because the numbers not clear to everyone. Thumb, index, long, ring, pinkie. It's an issue when we are doing procedures on different fingers on the same case, and need to be absolutely clear. I suspect it is from anatomical position, starting from the right side, the most lateral digit is the thumb.Zhoenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03515663141425057088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-62371737638377011232012-03-07T12:30:10.342-06:002012-03-07T12:30:10.342-06:00In piano instruction, the first finger is always t...In piano instruction, the first finger is always the thumb, second is index finger, and so on. This is possibly why when it said "third finger" I immediately assumed it meant middle finger.briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-46088567520346571972012-03-07T12:17:26.822-06:002012-03-07T12:17:26.822-06:00Germany counts from one (thumb) to five (pinky).Germany counts from one (thumb) to five (pinky).Richard "RichiH" Hartmannhttp://richardhartmann.de/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-15948293595119775362012-03-07T12:09:40.614-06:002012-03-07T12:09:40.614-06:00I noticed several years ago that the numbering for...I noticed several years ago that the numbering for fingers is crazily inconsistent. If we agree to call the fingers thumb,A,B,C,D as we move away from the thumb, "first finger" invariably means A, but "fourth finger" means C, according to the OED. (It has no gloss for "second finger", "third finger" or "fifth finger", as one might imagine.) The OED presents several ancient English quotations calling C the fourth finger, so the difference is not only geographic.Mark Dominushttp://blog.plover.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-2743441615088272602012-03-07T11:44:27.584-06:002012-03-07T11:44:27.584-06:00I'm not from "over there," but I do ...I'm not from "over there," but I do remember having heard something about differing conventions on counting with fingers. I think the difference was that Americans begin with the thumb as "one," while Europeans begin with the pointer finger and end with the thumb as "five"? That might be incorrect, though.AFnoreply@blogger.com