Video from the Lady in the Pink Coat
byu/tommyknockerman8 inLeakednews
You have probably seen her on the "back" side (sidewalk side) of the action in the videos filmed from the street. Immediately after the shooting there was open concern online as to whether the Lady in the Pink Coat was safe and whether her cellphone footage was safe and would be released. Here it is.
More comments (lots more) from me later. And hopefully a better copy of the video. Just embedding this here for now.
As someone watching from another part of the country, I've been looking for ways I can practically help. I am grateful to Naomi Kritzer, another Minnesota writer/blogger, for her post on charities, mutual aids, and congressional call scripts
ReplyDeletehttps://naomikritzer.com/2026/01/21/how-to-help-if-you-are-outside-minnesota/
We've been looking for a compilation like this of how to help, so thank you.
DeleteWhat is going on in the USA? How can this be real, how do you deal with this type of violence against citizens and have the gall to call out other countries about their human rights abuse?
ReplyDeleteWe have no right anymore to call out anyone else. We've lost whatever moral high ground we once claimed. It was shaky to begin with but at least we were once siding with anti-authoritarianism.
DeleteI mean... the new thing is it happening to white folk, out in the open. The US has been pretty awful for decades. Try forming a third party and see how far you get. Corporations will tolerate cutting two cheques, not three. Politics reduced to the Globetrotters vs the Generals, everyone paid from the same bank account.
DeleteIt's been a thin veneer of "freedom", with a huge side of military industrial complex. Biggest percentage prison population in the Western world etc.
How's freedom of speech working for you now that the majority of social media are run either by amoral billionaires or, in the case of TikTok, basically Project 2025.
In the last few years every major news channel fell into conservative control. Although of course, news is really entertainment these days so you don't have to worry about facts.
Funding withdrawn for public media.
There's a laundry list out there of what steps are taken to make a country into an autocracy, the framework used in Turkey and Hungary - you should look it up and see how many points the US has already ticked off.
"How can this be real, how do you deal with this type of violence against citizens and have the gall to call out other countries about their human rights abuse?"
ReplyDeleteWhile this administration would certainly have the gall to do pretty much anything, I don't think they really have the inclination to care about human rights abuses.
Of course they care, but only when it gets them more money/power.
DeleteWhat's going on in this country has been building since its founding, the rotten original seed in my opinion. "All men are created equal" myth, all rich white men they meant. Women subjugated with no voting power, Native Americans genocided, Black Americans Jim Crowed, Chinese persecuted, etc, etc, etc. I am sorry to say the crows have come home to roost and that we actually deserve this. The Vietnam War horror was 'our' turning point. Shame on us.
ReplyDeleteInteresting. You take the position that only rich white men are served by the founders. Then you list all manner of oppressed people. But there is no mention of poor white men in that list, even as poor white men have been battling rich white men since civilization was invented. Strange, since poor white men have been one of the largest groups of oppressed people in American history. Once again, we have the rhetoric of phenotype dividing us instead of the language of class interest which might unite us. Identity ideology continues to erode the power of the left in the US as poor and working class white men are marginalized and alienated, along with their entire households. It's so obvious, and yet...
DeleteWell, you just stay tuned to FOX around Easter for their fact based min series about what faithful wimmin had to endure just to get included in the Bible.
DeleteI hope FOX mentions that in the ancient world wimmin had no access to birth control (FDA 1960), so their time was mostly spent rearing the next generation. (Not sure people know about this--along with people not knowing much about anything else.) But, yes, I'm on the edge of my seat wondering how wimmin got "included in the Bible, " according to Fox News.
DeleteRegarding the distinction between rich and poor white people, this is one explanation: https://youtu.be/atwhjddV1xc
DeleteThis is another strange moment in resistance. The left has again found a cause, but I'm not sure what the cause is. The left is protesting peacefully, but no...not really. The left doesn't know how it's protesting. It seems to be venting a lot of rage, but that's not quite in accord with the art and science of satyagraha--which people are free to reject, but do they know what they're rejecting? The left opposes sweeps by ICE, but do they oppose immigration law in general? That is, is the military approach ICE employs at the core of the problem or is the problem immigration law and immigration law enforcement? Is the US justified in deporting anyone at all? If so, who? If not, how do borders remain meaningful? When Obama deported 3 million people, there was little to no resistance. Is the position of the left that Obama's way was fine, but Trump's way is not fine? Is this the high moral ground on which protesters are standing? America's left is a chaotic mess. It's been increasingly so for a long time.
ReplyDeleteGosh, Curtis Yarvin makes more sense.
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin
DeleteYes, the deportation of criminal or dangerous people is acceptable. That's what Obama did. What Trump has been doing is not. Birthright citizenship, paths to citizenship, and amnesties are good. Even Reagan knew that. What "the left" (which pretty much encompasses at this point everyone who doesn't think that people should be summarily murdered, imprisoned, or disappeared by the government because of the color of their skin or their personal views) is resisting is Trump/Miller/Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 transformation of the US into a white supremacist, christofascist dictatorship. They/we are protesting non-violently, which is not always the same as peacefully. Non-violent protests are always the most effective.
DeleteSpeed Over Fairness
Delete75 percent of people removed do not see a judge before being expelled from the U.S.
313,000 nonjudicial removals – an all-time high.
"A deportation system that herds 75 percent of people through fast-track, streamlined removal is a system devoid of fairness and individualized due process. Nonjudicial removals violate our constitutional tradition and cannot be reconciled with an administration that has repeatedly stated its commitment to immigration reform"
Current administration? No, this is from May 2014. Few people cared. Some did. 100 clergy were arrested at a protest in front of the White House. And by 2016, 56 people had died due to a lack of proper medical care while in DHS detention facilities.
What is currently happening in Minnesota is appalling. So is what was happening 10 years ago. Maybe at some point Congress will do their job and and make changes to the immigration process. I am not optimistic.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairness-deportation-under-obama
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/research/deportation-dilemma-reconciling-tough-humane-enforcement
https://immigrantjustice.org/press-release/report-shows-poor-medical-care-led-to-deaths-at-u-s-detention-centers/
@ Anonymous, Curtis Yarvin: I've noticed that playing to the crowd is more and more important, rather than making a real argument. I think this may be a reflection of the feminization of culture wherein group cohesion and popularity are the aim. Real dissent is not welcome. It's agreed that ridicule and cancelling will achieve the objective, which is to feel included regardless of the basis for inclusion. The right has noticed this in the left and the left ought to be listening. The cost is high.
DeleteOf course you've noticed it, as has your label maker, which is of course, independently right wing and pretend macho. Yes, the cost of being shoved towards a criminal dictatorship has been, and will continue to be high. Ultimately it will be halted. It's what Jesus will do.
DeleteEpiscopalians on Facebook has called for a national day of silence, a strike, not sure of the. correct word, on January 30, a good day to stay off the internet, stay home and read our bibles and meditate on what our nation has become. I am going to observe it.
ReplyDeleteI know why my grandfather and great grandfather went on strike. It had to do with conditions in those darn steel mills. Exactly what are we striking for on January 30? It's less clear than ever. I imagine a wealthy Episcopalian, kneeling somewhere in a 4,000 square foot home, praying the gardener is not deported.
DeleteDo you follow the letters or videos of Heather Cox Richardson? She might provide you some of the context you seems to be looking for.
DeleteI'm familiar with Heather Cox Richardson. Her approach to history is competent, but not brave in the sense that it challenges anything affluent, white liberals believe or want to hear. In my experience, the same liberals who say, "Tell me more about Wounded Knee!" are the same liberals that DO NOT show up for homeless humans rights, a serious discussion of our environmental impact, radical wealth redistribution (really ending poverty in America), attention to our animal holocaust, or anything else that makes the materially comfortable squirm.
DeleteI think it's a bad idea in general to impede the police when you're carrying a concealed weapon.
ReplyDelete1. He had the right to carry a weapon in that state. Do you not believe in the 2nd Amendment? 2. He had a concealed carry permit. 3. He did not unholster the gun. 4. He did not impede the police. He was trying to help shield an innocent woman who was being pepper sprayed at close quarters for not reason and to help her stand up. 5. There were no police involved. 6. He broke no laws. 7. He posed zero risk to anyone. 8. Are you serious right now?
DeleteNothing in this post is meant to justify the shooting of Mr. Pretti. I am aware that available evidence indicates Mr. Pretti did not have possession of his weapon when he was shot.
DeleteSome years ago I had a permit to carry concealed. I was working part-time for a private investigation firm, mainly serving subpoenas. To get the permit, classes were required. I was repeatedly told that in any interaction with law enforcement (ICE are law enforcement), you are to clearly and immediately inform the officer that you have a permit and are armed. This is known as a "duty to inform." Not all states require this but, IMO, they should. Minnesota does not. Also, some states ban carrying concealed in "sensitive situations," among them being protests/demonstrations. Minnesota does not. Either one, or both, might have saved a life.
I'll end with two thoughts. One, just because you have a right to do something doesn't mean you should. Two, a person carrying a weapon, whether LEO or private citizen or Armed Forces, always presents a risk to others. Seriously.
When during the attack on the woman and on Alex Pretti did he ever have a chance to "clearly and immediately" inform the police that he had a weapon?
Delete@Elagie: Having the right to carry a gun does not cover carrying a gun, as a matter of good judgement, to an activity where having a gun is potentially dangerous. And it's simply not true that "impeding the police" was not the point of being there. It was the point and it's obvious in the video. I guess we can quibble about what "impeding" means exactly, but that is the tactic.
DeleteThis meme that ICE are not police is killing people, please stop. ICE are police officers and are allowed to enforce the law and conduct necessary crowd control. Pretending otherwise is how you get pepper sprayed/arrested/shot.
DeleteIronHorse, Police don't wear masks that conceal their identity. Police wear uniforms, not camo or jeans. Police have far more training (still not nearly enough) than the gun happy yahoos currently identifying as ICE. Pointing out that these untrained, unvetted nutcakes are not police is not getting people killed. The untrained, unvetted nutcakes are killing people. Neither Good nor Pretti were breaking any laws. There was no crowd that needed controlling. It sounds to me like you're parroting the party line from Fox's talking heads rather than reflecting reality. Please watch the video. It was flat out murder. The only ones breaking the law are ICE.
DeleteThe 'right to carry a gun, even as a LEO, is also not license to commit homicide, murder, either. The videos clearly illustrate a whole pack of poorly trained agents several of whom act with obvious malice prior to discovering a gun which then affords them excuse to shoot (him in the) back.
DeleteThe misstatements and revisions of fact(s) from the street level to the White House including petulant attempts of distraction ranging from a likely blood blister or self-inflicted bruise, removing the agents from local/state investigators to re-freshed grabs for voter rolls says all the needs to be said about the whys of the these events.
Thank you, Elagie - you took the words out of my mouth. It's interesting that the new talking point seems to be that guns are the issue. Really? So it's fine to open carry guns with magazines like the Jan 6th crowd or Kyle Rittenhouse but not for someone who has a permit to carry and never took it out of the holster?? This is something that angers so many of us - this hypocrisy to push their own narrative.
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