28 June 2024

Dolly Parton for President


Reposted from 2023 because she would have out-debated both of those losers last night...

Seriously.  Dolly Parton is the only person who can unite the brutally divided partisan voters of this country.  She is eminently qualified to represent the values this country claims to hold dear.

Allow me to anticipate the potential objections:

"She wouldn't have the right qualifications for being president of the country"
Constitutional requirements for the president:  a natural-born citizen at least 35 years old and a resident of the country for at least 14 years.  Box checked.  Moving on.

Duties and responsibilities of the President, as defined at the U.S. Senate site:
As chief executive, the president presides over the cabinet and has responsibility for the management of the executive branch. With the advice and consent of the Senate, the president also has the power to make treaties and to appoint ambassadors, U.S. officers, and judges to federal courts. He is also the commander in chief of the armed forces. The president signs laws and can veto bills that have passed Congress.
Details at the link.  We all know that every previous President has delegated those duties or fulfilled them based on recommendations from advisory committees (although Eisenhower may have been a real-life commander-in-chief).  No problems there.
"She has no political experience"
Exactly.  An asset, not a deficiency.  Dolly is the antithesis of a politician.  

"She is not part of a political party"
Exactly.  She has carefully avoided aligning herself with either the Democratic or Republican party.  She turned down the Presidential Medal of Freedom offer from Trump (twice) and from Biden; she felt that if she accepted it she "would be doing politics."

Here's a discussion of her recent "World on Fire" song lyrics:
“Don't get me started on politics, Now how are we to live in a world like this, Greedy politicians, present and past, They wouldn't know the truth if it bit 'em in the ass.”
These are the words read back to Dolly [by a host on the Today Show], who laughs as a response. She’s then asked which politicians she’s talking about.

All of them. any of them.” She replies, plainly.

She then adds, “I don’t think any of them are trying hard enough… They worry more about their party than they do about the people.”

Dolly added the better approach would be “If we just do what we felt was the right thing rather than who’s going to lose or who’s going to win this, or who’s going to look better if they do this.”
Absofuckinlutely right.  Here's the video of that conversation. And most Americans will agree with her.

This comment about her own politics, as cited in Woman and Home:
As for her own political views, she knows what they are and that’s good enough for her. “I’ve got as many Republican friends as I’ve got Democrat friends and I just don’t like voicing my opinion on things,” she says.

“I’ve seen things before, like the Dixie Chicks. You can ruin a career for speaking out. I respect my audience too much for that, I respect myself too much for that. Of course, I have my own opinions, but that don’t mean I got to throw them out there because you’re going to piss off half the people.”
Here's the full video of her performance of "World on Fire" at the American Country Music Awards.  Listen.


She gets a standing ovation from a room full of cowboy hats after performing what can reasonably be described as a climate change anthem.

"Liar, liar the world’s on fire

Whatcha gonna do when it all burns down?

Fire, fire burning higher

Still got time to turn it all around."

It’s difficult to say whether Dolly explicitly intended “World on Fire” as a climate song, though people are hearing it as such. But that’s how many of Dolly’s more “political” statements and artistic work come across — they tap into the zeitgeist without making any explicit political statements. Dolly is an expert at this.
Note also that the performance is a crossover of country music and rock and roll.  Dolly bridged that gap like no performer in history, recently accepting induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame after a lifetime of country music and Grand Old Opry.


Her new album, due out later this year, will include a cover of Prince's Purple Rain and duets with Sting, Steven Tyler, and Elton John, as well as a combined performance of "Let It Be" with McCartney and Ringo (see video above).  This from the most acclaimed "country music" artist of all time, because she believes in music and the lyrics of music, not in the politics of country vs. rock

This was Dolly Parton's comment regarding the Trump/Clinton presidential debates many years ago:

Let’s talk about what we really need — taking care of us. I think people just want to have a feeling of security. It’s just like political terrorism right now, they got us all scared to death about everything,’ Parton said.
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A pause in this nomination post.  Anyone who has ever written anything knows that it is easier to write the long version rather than a concise version.  I'm going to take the easy way out for the moment because I have so much to present, by inserting extended extracts from a variety of sources I've bookmarked over the years.  Later I'll need to come back to weed, summarize, correlate etc.  So here we go with some of the source material...

She is beloved across so many demographic groups because she really transcends politics,” said Lance Kinney, an advertising and public-relations professor at the University of Alabama. “And her magic lies on being a cipher onto which you can graft whatever political agenda you prefer.”

The allure that rings from honky-tonks in the rural South to gay bars in large coastal cities has everything to do with the persona Parton has meticulously cultivated since the 1950s, Kinney said. On the one hand, there’s the conservative-appealing story of Parton’s origins — or how she managed to pull herself up by her bootstraps after growing up poor in the Smoky Mountains of eastern Tennessee. On the other, there’s the glitz and glamour of her towering wigs and acrylic nails, and the feminist anthem she created with “9 to 5,” an iconic song about workplace discrimination.

In recent years, Parton has turned the Imagination Library, her literacy-focused nonprofit, into a 2 million-book-a-month international operation and also helped fund Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine. She has supported the LGBTQ+ community and endorsed the Black Lives Matter movement — breaking with “the guardrail in country music of not talking about racial injustice in the present,” said Joel Schwindt, a music history assistant professor at Berklee College of Music.

“Dolly Parton, much like country music, is a paradox,” Schwindt said. “But I think she can get away with it because of her authenticity and also because she’s reached founders’ status in country.”
Regarding controversial issues, per Gizmodo:
She’s acknowledged, for instance, the role of the LGBT community in inspiring her stage persona. Yet when Tennessee banned public drag performances, she kept quiet. She publicly attested her support for Black Lives Matter with a spate of other country musicians as artists reckoned with the genre’s long silence on racial justice. Her speaking up came two years after she changed the name of her long-running dinner show from Dixie Stampede to Dolly’s Stampede after much criticism of its Confederate nostalgia. Parton insisted the original name was chosen out of “innocent ignorance.” (This move did divide some fans.)

In interviews, Dolly has certainly expressed support for environmental causes, in her down-home oratory style. “We’re just mistreating Mother Nature,” she told National Geographic last year.“That’s like being ugly to your mama.” ...

But Wilkerson feels that Dolly, and her companies, don’t own up to their part in damaging the region’s climate resilience or contributing to environmental catastrophe through the cumulative impact of all those cars and private jets. “It’s been the ruination of the Smoky Mountains,” Wilkerson said bluntly. 

From Vox in 2021:
But Parton knew what she was talking about when she suggested to the New York Times last fall that people were starting to get sick of her. She has now achieved the sort of hysterical and highly trendy adoration that can shade into overexposure in the blink of an eye — even for a legend with a reputation as durable as Dolly Parton’s. The pressure on Dolly Parton to be the single person who can unite a fractured America is so high, there is a slow and uneasy creep of incipient backlash all around her...

But in recent decades, everything that makes Dolly Dolly has swung back into trend. “One reason Parton’s approval rating is so high, though” Lindsay Zoladz posited in the New York Times in 2019, “is that all the attributes that used to set her up for criticism — the outrageous, hyper-femme style; the unapologetic business savvy needed to pull off her late-70s pop crossover; even the so-what acknowledgment of her own cosmetic surgery — are no longer taboo.”

Dolly Parton often explains that she modeled her look after the town tramp, who as a small child she thought was the most beautiful person she’d ever seen, and that she knows straight men don’t find it attractive and doesn’t care. “If I was trying to really impress men or be totally sexy, then I would dress differently,” she told Playboy in 1978. But why bother? “I’m already married and he don’t mind how I look.”..

For decades, this acknowledgment played as tacky or trashy. But in the 2010s, it came to be seen as empowering, even feminist: Dolly dresses for herself, not the male gaze. And Dolly’s self is a celebration of the artificiality of femininity and glamour, a finding of authenticity in what is fake. That’s downright avant-garde...

In 2008, Roger Ebert returned to his 1980 Dolly Parton profile, noting that it had missed something he considered very important: her presence, which he writes “enveloped” him. “This had nothing to do with sex appeal,” he says. “Far from it. It was as if I were being mesmerized by a benevolent power. I left the room in a cloud of good feeling.”

Ebert adds that when he spoke with his writing partner Gene Siskel about Parton the next day, Siskel reported the same feeling: “This will sound crazy,” he said, “but when I was interviewing Dolly Parton, I almost felt like she had healing powers.”
Lots more good information at that Vox article, including insights into the Dollywood Dixie Stampede dropping the term "Dixie" at her request, her refusal to join Lily Tomlin and Jane Fonda in disrespecting Donald Trump, and the weaknesses inherent in embracing both sides of an argument.

In 2020 The New York Times offered "The Grit and Glory of Dolly Parton":
Only as an adult did I see how widely and warmly (if sometimes ironically) Parton has been embraced by people with little else in common. Her ability to navigate social and conceptual divides helps explain why this is: She is country without being retrograde; a friend to the outcast whose basic political philosophy, that people should get paid to do what they do best, is uncontroversial. She is beautiful without making beauty look easy; feminine but not fragile; white but not precious; principled but not hardened or fixed...

Most accounts of her life, of which there are many, begin with Parton’s humble origins as the fourth child of 12 born to an industrious sharecropper and a musical mother in the mountains of East Tennessee. Extremely poor, but confident and creative, Parton wrote her first songs at age 5 or 6, got her first guitar at age 8 and appeared on a local radio and television show at age 10. The morning after her high school graduation in 1964, Parton left her small town for Nashville. That day, she met her husband, Carl Dean, to whom she has been married for 54 years...

Parton addresses the wealth she has amassed through these ventures with predictable nonchalance, but she clearly knows the value of money, in a way familiar to those who have grown up without it. She supports several family members (she does not have children), and has donated millions to the Imagination Library, the literacy program she founded in 1990; to East Tennessee residents whose homes were destroyed by a 2016 wildfire; and, this spring, to Nashville’s Vanderbilt Medical Center, for Covid-19 vaccine research...

The word that you’re going to have to use over and over when describing her is ‘work,’” Summers tells me. I admit I have gleaned this from Parton’s description of how she “gets more done than most people do all day” by working every morning from 3 to 7 a.m. on her spiritual practice and any one of several projects she keeps lined up in plastic bins before her workday officially begins. Parton says she “lives on creative and spiritual energy” — and the more she talks about “rising above” her physical self to meet the demands of each day, I see she means this literally: She subsists on energy instead of typical amounts of sleep (she gets no more than six hours a night, and is fine on three)...

Even her gleaming exterior can be seen as a function of her working girl’s pragmatism. “I’m really not that ‘high maintenance,’” she writes in the new book, “I can put on my makeup, costume and wig and be ready for anything in 15 minutes or less.”..

She remains true to country music’s historical role, not as a bastion of conservative patriotism (as it was rebranded when it was aligned with Richard Nixon’s “silent majority” in the 1960s) but as an inclusively populist, working people’s music meant to give outsiders a voice. Hence her decision to write the song “Travelin’ Thru” for the 2005 film “Transamerica,” about a trans woman’s attempts to connect with her son; and, in 2017, to join Miley Cyrus on the pro-gay anthem “Rainbowland.”

The Imagination Library videos on YouTube, where Dolly reads bedtime stories to you (or your children) from the books that she gives away free to children every month in order to promote literacy

Re her childhood poverty and dietary preferences, from Rolling Stone in 2003:
Despite all the modern trappings of her fame and success, Dolly Parton is a living link to what seems like an impossibly remote past. She was born the fourth of twelve children in a log cabin in Sevier County, Tennessee, on the edge of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. The doctor who brought her into the world was paid with a sack of cornmeal. The Partons didn’t have electricity or indoor plumbing, and her dad, a tobacco farmer, supplemented the family’s diet by taking his shotgun and heading off into the woods.

“People hear me talk about eating squirrel and groundhogs, but in the mountains like that, you really didn’t have much of a choice,” says Parton matter-of-factly. “There were twelve of us kids. We never ate possum — I remember Daddy saying, ‘That’s like a damn rat.’ But we ate everything — turtle, frogs. I just remember the big old groundhogs — whistle pigs, they called them — and you’d cook ’em with sweet potatoes, and you’d have different ways of making some of that gamy taste go away.” 
“Look,” she says triumphantly, throwing the cabinet doors open. It’s magnificent: cans of corned-beef hash, tins of Spam, loaves of white bread, a Costco-size brick of Velveeta. “I have to have my Spam,” she says. “And look at this!” It’s a pig-shaped ceramic jar. Inside is a baggie of bacon grease, neatly labeled with a date. “The people who come to clean my house every Thursday have to fry up bacon, so I have bacon grease to cook with. I have to have it in all my houses.” She brightens. “You want some Velveeta?” She saws off an orange hunk and offers it. “You didn’t believe me, did you?” she says. “I grew up with that stuff and I never got over it. Good, ain’t it?”  

She was the first in the history of her family to graduate from high school.  Lots more at the link. [note to self - extract more later,

The first episode of “Dolly Parton’s America” centers partly on the “9 to 5” songwriter’s reluctance to call herself a feminist. Earlier this year, Parton’s own sister, Stella, said she was “ashamed” of Dolly for not speaking out more about the #MeToo movement. In response, Parton told The Guardian: “I don’t feel I have to march, hold up a sign or label myself. I think the way I have conducted my life and my business and myself speaks for itself.”..

Like Cher, another 73-year-old multihyphenate icon, Parton has over the past few years ascended to a rarefied level of intergenerational celebrity: a saucy grandmother of social media...

Both-sides-ism rarely feels as benevolent as it does when coming from Parton, but that’s nothing new. When asked, in 1997, how she was able to maintain fan bases within both the religious right and the gay community, she replied, “It’s two different worlds, and I live in both and I love them both, and I understand and accept both.”..

Parton was born in January 1946, to parents so poor, they paid the doctor who delivered her in cornmeal. Their home at the foot of East Tennessee’s Great Smoky Mountains had “running water, if you were willing to run and get it” — one of Parton’s many, oft-repeated “Dollyisms” that makes light of her hardscrabble upbringing.

As a child — one of 12 — she had no exposure to movies or television, rarely even magazines, so her earliest ideas of glamour came from two seemingly disparate sources: the glittering kings and queens she heard described in fairytales and Bible verses, and from the “streetwalkers,” and “strumpets and trollops” she’d see when her family went into town. “I was impressed with what they called ‘the trash’ in my hometown,” she later mused. “I don’t know how trashy these women were, but they were said to be trashy because they had blond hair and wore nail polish and tight clothes. I thought they were beautiful.”...

For all the musical legends we’ve lost in the past few years, it’s heartening to see this show pony get her victory lap while she’s still around to bask in the glory. Not that she’s planning on going anywhere. Whenever she’s asked how she’d like to be remembered 100 years from now, Parton trots out one of her best Dollyisms: “I want ’em to say, ‘God, don’t she look good for her age!’”..

[In the WNYC podcast series "Dolly Parton's America,"] Abumrad narrates from his position as a relative outsider to what he calls the Dollyverse, presenting “Dolly Parton’s America” with the aesthetic language of the modern podcast: snippets of interviews, tonally appropriate background music, and the inviting, conversational voice of a man guiding you through his thought process as he travels down various rabbit holes of his own curiosity. Parton granted Abumrad quite a few sit-down interviews, and although seasoned Parton fans will find little of what she tells him to be new information, “Dolly Parton’s America” is a genial, compulsively listenable crash course in Parton’s lasting appeal...
And that will serve as a segue to my earnest suggestion that those wishing to understand Dolly Parton should listed to these podcastsThe full 8-part series of podcasts is here [transcripts are also available for those who want to skim quickly].  In the "Dixie Disappearance" she explains why she modified Dollywood's chief attraction - the "Dixie Stampede" after learning it offended people:
Well, there's several reasons that we changed the name or a few reasons. Maybe I should say a couple of reasons. One being that out of ignorance, people do things you don't know. A lot of my things that I do wrong, just out of pure ignorance really, because you grow up a certain way and you don't know. The Dixie, we always thought way down in the land of Dixie, it's like a Dixieland or Dixieland music, Dixie. You know, I just thought of Dixie as a part of the, part of America. And it was offensive cause like I say out of ignorance, you don't know that you're hurting people, never thought about it being, about slavery or any of that. But when it was brought to our attention, and some woman wrote about it and I thought, well Lord have mercy, I would never want to hurt anybody for any reason. And being a business woman, we didn't really have that many people say anything about it.

But I thought, Lord, if I've offended one person as a business woman, I don't want to do that. So we completely cleared all that out and started over that. But we, I just wanted to fix it cause I don't want to ever hurt or offend anyone. And so I did it as a good faith effort to show that it was never meant to cause anyone any pain.
Back in 2019 after listening to Radiolab's introduction to "Dolly Parton's America," I posted a summary of the podcast, including this: 
JAD: Like, she tore right through all of that noise. Through the general election and beyond. And I kept bumping into people who would describe the experience of being at a Dolly show as, like, standing in an alternate vision of America than what was unfolding on the TV.

JESSIE WILKERSON: I remember just standing out in the lobby and just people watching, because it was the most diverse place I’ve ever been. I was seeing a multi-racial audience. People wearing cowboy hats and boots. I was seeing people in drag. Church ladies. Lesbians holding hands. Little girls who were there with their families.

WAYNE BLEDSOE: You had a whole audience of people who absolutely their philosophies were in opposition to each other co-mingling, and everybody is polite to each other.

JAD: So that was one thing that caught my attention. That in this very divided moment, Dolly seems to maybe be a kind of unifier. And after doing a little poking around, the data does kind of bear this out. If you look at her global Q Score, this is a measure of how well people think about your brand, globally. What they do is they assemble a very diverse sample of people, they ask them a bunch of questions, and out of all of these different brands that are out there, all these different performers, she is in the top 10 globally in terms of everybody's favorites. But she's almost number one when it comes to lack of negatives, if that makes any sense.
That's what the United States needs right now

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O.K.  That's the end of the multi-course dog's breakfast of my archived Dolly Parton links.  Now back to the "presidential nomination" part of this megapost.

First, I would like comments from international readers re what your reaction would be were the United States to nominate or elect Dolly Parton as U.S. president, and how she would play out on the world stage.  Björk had this to say back in 2003:
“Oh, Dolly’s big in Iceland,” says Björk. “Her voice is immaculate, really powerful. Her character is so warm and human, and she has a great sense of humor.” To Björk, Parton transcends her musical genre. “All my friends love Dolly, and most of them are people who would never listen to country music,” she says. 
But that's one talented musician talking about another one for a music-centered Rolling Stone magazine.  How would "regular people," diplomats, and other world leaders react?  Personally I can envision her attending a major international conference in the Hague, walking up to an obscure foreign minister to say "Hi - I'm Dolly," and him responding "Yes, I know.  My people back in Eastern Rumelia just love you."  "I'm so pleased to hear that.  Let's talk about this climate mess."

Second, we need to ponder a vice-presidential running mate.  Many years ago when Donald Trump was running for president, I thought the Democrats should counter with Tom Hanks, but at their convention they disastrously chose Hilary Clinton.  Now I would suspect that Tom Hanks would be too "woke" for this centrist new party.  Readers may have some reasonable suggestions, but in the end likely Dolly could come up with her own pick.  And what to call the party? (again, she can decide.  She built a multimillion-dollar business from scratch; she's good at this stuff).

The biggest problem is not getting her elected, but getting her to accept the nomination.  It would probably only take three degrees of separation for someone reading this post to ask someone they know to ask someone who knows Dolly personally to tell her that she needs to offer herself as a presidential candidate.  She will of course immediately decline.

I have no doubt that the idea of being president has been suggested to her many times in interviews.  The difference would be that this would be a serious appeal, not clickbait for a media video or post.  It needs to be emphasized to her that she needs to do this for the good of her country.  Dolly Parton probably has more true patriotism than all the congressmen combined, and she might well make sacrifices for that goal.  But her reply would probably also be a serious declining of the offer, because I believe her husband is probably in failing health.

Dolly has said that she would continue her music until her death and the only thing that would take her away from that would be if she is needed at home.  She has recently announced that she will no longer be touring - just doing occasional appearances, because she wants to spend more time at home with her husband.

The response to that would be an acknowledgement of her situation and the counteroffer that she can stay at home for the process.  She won't need to do any campaigning.  Just a simple 30 second video inserted during the upcoming Trump-DeSantis flame wars and during the Democratic staged "debates" in which she says "Hi - I'm Dolly, and I am also running for president.  Please write my name in on the primary ballots.  Thank y'all so much" would be sufficient to confirm her viability. 

And as president, she could also spend her time at home (except for those international conferences), Zooming with her cabinet.  This is the way business is done in the modern world.  What else does a president do in real life?  They go to tornado/hurricane/flood sites to hug victims and then get back in their motorcades of black SUVs back to their helicopters.  She could do that much much better.  And do it sincerely.

What can we do in the meantime?  Discuss this with friends and family as a serious matter, and start writing her name in on every online poll.  I've not been able to find her included in any FiveThirtyEight surveys, except for this casual aside: "these days it’s difficult to get 58 percent of Americans to agree on anything except perhaps distaste for airline travel and love of Dolly Parton."  Somebody over there please take notice.

I will offer this for her campaign song/theme video:


TLDR:  An intelligent, hard-working, compassionate businesswoman who puts people above politics is the best available representative for the United States at home and on the world stage.

Photo embedded at the top from the Associated Press, via a Los Angeles Times article on Dolly's receiving of the Carnegie Medal of Philanthropy.

Addendum:  A Bloomberg article about Dolly Parton's business management techniques.

28 comments:

  1. I need to spend some time reading this whole post, but I fully support your nominee. Shall I second it? Do we have a quorum?

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  2. We all like Dolly Parton, so why would we wish for her to be president, she does not deserve such an oppressive and wearisome yoke.

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    1. Because Dolly is capable.

      Imagine... she appeals to be a write in on both sides and ends up being acclaimed as president after winning both nominations!

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  3. Love unites and justice divides. It's in the realm of justice that politics succeeds or fails. Dolly is loving and loved because she's stayed above the fray. Unfortunately, it's those willing to get dirty that have cred with me. If we can't unite on a justice basis, however ugly that unity might be, there's no basis for real love. This is all another way of saying "the devil is in the details"; and by avoiding the details, Dolly remains angelic. Hence "Dolly for President" is magically appealing, but light on the reality of how the needle of justice moves. Example: If I have tons of charisma and never say anything about climate change, one way or another, people who accept climate science and people who don't will find me appealing. But, as soon as I take a position, I've alienated half of the people who once saw me as a unifying and lovable person. So unity can be achieved on the basis of a non-controversial approach much more easily than a controversial approach. But unity without an investment in the truths of the moment--and there are many--is hollow. Politics is not entertainment. It's a war and you have to take sides, sooner or later. Someone is going to be pissed off. Where does Dolly stand on higher taxes for the rich? And Food Stamps for the poor? I can only guess. I know where Kevin McCarthy stands; he stands with the rich. I don't love him as much as I love Dolly, even as I have no idea where Dolly stands.

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    1. I'm going to request that those who disagree with me provide an alternative choice in a brief sentence or two in the form of [specific name] [reason].

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    2. Your idea of Parton as President is fun but I agree with Crowboy, and the fact that I can't think of my own candidate doesn't mean Parton is a good choice. Plus, I'm not clear how it's realistic that she could win without being the official choice of one of the two parties.

      As one of your international readers, I don't mind whom you elect, but would wonder about Parton's foreign policy in the face of strong foreign leaders. The US has often made foreign policy decisions that are controversial but which further its interests, and ultimately benefit US citizens - is Parton the kind of person who can make those decisions? Maybe the role helps the holder to make such decisions. I don't know.

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    3. I don't know this for a fact, but I would bet money that no U.S. president (in the modern era) makes foreign policy decision on their own. All this stuff almost has to be generated from extensive committee discussions and debates. The president serves as the spokesperson, of course, but there must be layers and layers of research and diplomacy (and spying) to reach those policy decisions.

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  4. From the "she is qualified" section, you missed that she was born in 1946, as seems to be traditional.

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    1. Didn't miss that - because that's the year I was born too! We are in the prime of life.

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  5. I was impressed that every one of her employees, even the part timers, are eligible for reimbursement for continued education from the day they are hired. No waiting, right now!
    xoxoxoBruce

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  6. I must admit that you scared me bringing presidential politics into this relaxing oasis of yours, but I smiled with relief when I saw Dolly. Well done.

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  7. Dolly Parton - A bold candidate who will lead this nation in a new direction.

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  8. I'd vote for her. I'd vote anyone who isn't a "politician".

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  9. I've always felt that the European republican system of electing a separate chief executive and head of state made more sense than the presidential system we have. The head of state represents the country at state functions, etc. Dolly would be the ideal candidate (esp. now that Betty White is gone).

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  10. I could not agree more, if for no other reason than that Parton is a genuinely good and kind person. We need that, rather desperately. She has the unique ability to be able to reach out to people on either side of our ever-growing national divide, and to be beloved by many on both sides.

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  11. First, I like Dolly for multiple reasons that have nothing to do with politics. First, she is from east Tennessee--where I'm from. Second, her grandfather preacher (as well as her family) were Church of God--that same denomination I'm with (by the way, she has been very, very kind and generous to the Church of God Home for Children (now called The Smoky Mountain Children's Home). Then there is her music--just wow!

    About politics.... Consider that this is a woman who has conceived, developed, protected, and negotiated her business empire (she is one of the wealthiest singers in the world--supposedly $650MM).

    Then there are the jobs she has created in Tennessee (Dollywood, Dolly's Stampede, as well as using her fame to attract people to Pigeon Forge, TN, where many other businesses are supported by tourists). So there's that too.

    I can say no to just about anyone. But few could say no to Dolly. If they do resist, she's liable to write a song that says "I Will Always Love You" (which was a loving parting tribute to Porter Wagoner, who had been her boss and helped her reach fame).

    She is beloved by liberals and conservatives. There are few that are more liberal than Jane Fonda...and yet they love each other. And Tennessee (especially east Tennessee), being largely conservative, loves Dolly.

    Basically, while she is not a politician, per se, she knows how to navigate in such situations, but without the cynicism and without the favor for a favor. She would do what she does ,NOT to get reelected, but to help people.

    The other thing is this: We almost always elect politicians to the presidency. How's that working for us? Trump wasn't a politician, but he was a jerk. Dolly isn't a jerk, and she worked her way up from the hollers of east Tennessee, not with a "small, million-dollar loan from dad."

    I'm with you. If she runs, I'd vote for her. But the one drawback will likely be that she will have to come down on one side or the other on some controversial issues...and that might besmirch her wonderful reputation.

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  12. I think several of you are homing in on one of the central points I was trying to make – that the President of the United States is relatively weak in terms of actual legislative powers. And that’s basically baked into the system by the design of the founders. The President’s principal role is to represent this country – both at home (“this is who we all agree on”) and abroad.

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    1. Does the president's "Executive Order" count as legislative?

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    2. I would say no. "Legislative" = Making, or having the power to make, a law or laws. An "executive" order is an "executive" function.

      I'm not a lawyer - but I am an English major.

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  13. I don't think you needed such a long post as to 'why' Dolly Parton; just stating "Dolly Parton" should have been self-evident?

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  14. Post and comments are stunning. The notion that a charming celebrity with no stated political positions, and no interest in running for office, is presidential material is an escapist fantasy. Also, the notion that the presidency is essentially a ceremonial office is unhinged. Imagine another time in history, on which we now have more perspective. It's 1860 and this whole slavery thing is coming to a head. Instead of electing Lincoln, wouldn't it have made more sense to elect a famous singer who never took a position on slave and free states, one way or another? Would that have solved the problem? Floated the nation into a Kumbaya era of harmony? I fail to see this entire exercise as anything but magical thinking. Just read the Wikipedia articles on Bernie Sanders and then Dolly Pardon. It should be obvious which one does the work of "state" and which one has no serious interest. “I’ve got as many Republican fans as Democrats,” Parton said at the time, “and I don’t want to make any of them mad at me, so I don’t play politics.”

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    1. Crowboy, you still haven't responded to my request on your previous comment for your suggestion of a better candidate to unite the people of this country and overcome our electile dysfunction.

      And FWIW if you read my old posts you will remember I was a vehement supporter of Bernie Sanders, who is not electable because he was sabotaged by the Democrats and smeared by the Republicans last time.

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    2. I don't think we need to unite the country. I think we need to unite the working class and the poor. Uniting the country is impossible, given that the interests of the rich and the poor are never one. This is where "love" emerges as naive. So who can unite the working class and the poor--and shake off the race and gender identity politics idiocy/curse we've been under for decades? The only thing keeping Bernie down is his age--but he's only four years older than Dolly. I think he'd take the Democratic nomination if he ran. As I've said, I have some affection for RFK Jr., which surprised me, and some for Tulsi Gabbard. But, I will admit it's not an easy task. But, a lack of credible candidates does not make Dolly Pardon a credible candidate.

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    3. I have to respectfully disagree with the notion that someone who does communicate political positions and does not have an interest in political office is a poor nominee. I think that on the contrary, this describes someone for whom the primary motivation is not acquisition of power, and for whom it is more important to maintain relationships than to risk alienating people. Dolly HAS political positions, and she's made that clear over time through her art. Among these is environmentalism, LGBTQ+ rights, and even references to viewing abortion as a private, individual decision - and valuing the person involved as a human being deserving of compassion. The difference with Dolly is that she sees certain things as more important than political confrontation - which is almost always a play for leadership and/or power grab.

      There's a police officer in my town who's job is to respond to domestic violence and identify supports for victims. He's amazing at this job, and one of the most gentle and compassionate police officers I've ever encountered. He also has a fake, golden $100 bill with the face of Donald Trump on the wall of his office, and a .50 caliber rifle round on his desk. He is, I believe, a combat veteran, and also a fantastic father. I say all this, because he is living evidence that none of these ideas are inherently polarizing, and perhaps if he introduced himself to everyone as a Trump supporter, he might be less successful in his practice of compassion. Sometimes it's the choice to act instead of speak that is characteristic of the best people.

      I am fully ready and willing to vote Dolly rather than reluctantly vote for any of the likely candidates.

      Also, Stan, I appreciate that you took as long as you did in writing and revising your post. I also appreciate that the word "absofuckinlutely" survived all revisions.

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  15. RFK Jr. & Tulsi Gabbard are two divisive political personalities. I used to work with and for RFK Jr.’s brother, and I’m afraid that the family has abandoned him and his views. Tulsi is not respectable for someone like me, but we don’t need to argue.

    #dollyforpresident

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    1. I find it fascinating that "divisive" is seen as a negative thing. I've yet to see anyone tell the truth about anything without being divisive. It's like saying "anger is bad" without asking why a person is angry. Our political culture has gotten very strange. It's worrisome. I think this reflects a feminization of culture. All must be soft and inclusive. In the US, the left is now pretty much brain dead. Conservatives will keep eating our lunch.

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  16. As of today, I'm voting for Dr. West: https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/dr-cornel-west-announces-he-is-running?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=778851&post_id=126040205&isFreemail=false&utm_medium=email

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  17. I agreed in 2023. And I agree in 2024!

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