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20 December 2022
"It depends..."
Don't knee-jerk your response to this puzzle. I thought the answer was mind-numbingly obvious - until I read the discussion thread at the CountOnceADay subreddit. And that discussion doesn't even mention the concept of the Reynolds number...
loss.jpg is the name of a notable/infamous strip from the webcomic CTRL-ALT-DELETE, in which a man rushes to his wife's aid in the hospital after she has a miscarriage. Specifically, it's 4 panels; he rushes in the hospital doors, talks to the receptionist, talks to the doctor, then goes to his wife in a hospital bed. There's a lot more to *why* it's so infamous, but for our purposes all that matters is that it is famous and became a meme. Particularly, it has been distilled down to the point where just an arrangement of figures in 4 panels like this can be recognized as "loss".
Loss is a four-panel web comic from back in 2008 that was meant to be poignant but didn't strike the right tone with the comic's fans. So it became memed into oblivion, often in strange or minimalist ways. The standard meme would reflect the comic's structure of four panels that go in this pattern: A) one person standing; B) one person standing and one person sitting; C) two people standing; and D) one person standing and one person laying down. This brain teaser was designed to match that pattern. Lots more explanation and examples here:
They're referring to a meme that mocked the Ctrl, Alt, Dlt comic where the characters were reduced to vertical and horizontal lines. Well described here https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/loss
Yeah, more important than anything else, people make a game of hiding loss in otherwise unrelated images. Spotting it in the world is sort of a pattern recognition game for the terminally online.
Knee jerk comment: 5 will fill up first. None of the others will. After reading the comment from "Eric": Yup it's the "Loss" comic meme which got a laugh out of me. My favorite variation is the maze which you use the MSPaint bucket fill to solve.
Loss is a meme based on a webcomic (Ctrl-alt-del). The four panels in the comic has been “minimized” into a standing figure, two standing figures, one shorter on the right. And one standing, one lying down. So the puzzle is a representation of the meme, since the containers follow t he same pattern. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/loss
So now I know about "loss." More lost brain cells. But, for that silliness to be on-point, wouldn't you have to reverse the positions of 2,3 and 4,5? Oh, and how can that faucet of tears deliver to 7 with 3 blocked?
It depends. If the water from the faucet is flowing at the same flow rate as the various pipes between cups, then I believe #5 will fill up first (since, as someone pointed out, cups 2 and 3 are not connected. However, if it is flowing heavily, then #1 will fill up first, since more would be coming in than going out.
Nobody said it was water. If it is molasses or some other viscous fluid, #1 will overflow before the fluid gets through the narrow conduit to #2, much less down to #5.
I came here to say the same thing. I looked through the Reddit thread and saw no mention of it being anything other than water. It could even be fine sand. Or it could be water in the faucet, but the containers are made of a good thermal conductor in an environment where the ambient temperature is well below freezing. That should plug the (apparently) small tubes with ice fairly quickly.
Or it could be acid and the containers made of styrofoam. I think the entire puzzle was constructed not to teach math per se but lateral thinking and reasoning. I forwarded this to the young fellow who mows my lawn; he's already taken AP calculus and is having fun presenting the puzzle to his classmates.
All of the "outside the box" analysis is distracting. A faucet will normally use water. If it was used to control the flow of acid or hydrogen gas, one would necessarily mention that in the introduction to the puzzle. Likewise if the puzzle existed in the vacuum of space, or if the containers were made of sodium metal or whatever. If any of those oddball conditions are in play, it becomes pointless to try to solve it. Also, the fact that it is shaped sort of like a comic is not relevant.
Well... 2 and 3 don't seem to be connected, so that makes things easier. Unless that's a semipermeable membrane, of course.
ReplyDeleteTrue. And there is that apparent hole in the bottom of #4...
DeleteThis is loss.
ReplyDeleteThe burst of alarm that I felt upon realizing this was Loss ...
DeleteELI5, please.
Deleteloss.jpg is the name of a notable/infamous strip from the webcomic CTRL-ALT-DELETE, in which a man rushes to his wife's aid in the hospital after she has a miscarriage. Specifically, it's 4 panels; he rushes in the hospital doors, talks to the receptionist, talks to the doctor, then goes to his wife in a hospital bed. There's a lot more to *why* it's so infamous, but for our purposes all that matters is that it is famous and became a meme. Particularly, it has been distilled down to the point where just an arrangement of figures in 4 panels like this can be recognized as "loss".
DeleteWow. Yup. I hadn't realized.
DeleteStrangely, I learned about "loss" just a few hours ago. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/loss
DeleteLoss is a four-panel web comic from back in 2008 that was meant to be poignant but didn't strike the right tone with the comic's fans. So it became memed into oblivion, often in strange or minimalist ways. The standard meme would reflect the comic's structure of four panels that go in this pattern: A) one person standing; B) one person standing and one person sitting; C) two people standing; and D) one person standing and one person laying down. This brain teaser was designed to match that pattern. Lots more explanation and examples here:
Deletehttps://knowyourmeme.com/memes/loss
They're referring to a meme that mocked the Ctrl, Alt, Dlt comic where the characters were reduced to vertical and horizontal lines. Well described here https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/loss
DeleteYeah, more important than anything else, people make a game of hiding loss in otherwise unrelated images. Spotting it in the world is sort of a pattern recognition game for the terminally online.
DeleteThe pressure jet squirting out of the tap will deflect off the bottom of #1, arc through the air and fill #6 completely first.
ReplyDeleteKnee jerk comment: 5 will fill up first. None of the others will.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the comment from "Eric": Yup it's the "Loss" comic meme which got a laugh out of me.
My favorite variation is the maze which you use the MSPaint bucket fill to solve.
Not necessarily. It depends. #1 could fill up and overflow before #5 is even half full.
DeleteCan you explain? The reddit thread has lots of people repeating the same things and linking to a "comic" that makes no sense whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteLoss is a meme based on a webcomic (Ctrl-alt-del). The four panels in the comic has been “minimized” into a standing figure, two standing figures, one shorter on the right. And one standing, one lying down. So the puzzle is a representation of the meme, since the containers follow t he same pattern.
Deletehttps://knowyourmeme.com/memes/loss
Zero for twenty. At least with the KWC (still pending...) I know what the questions are.
ReplyDeleteDid anybody else notice that the tap is not connected to anything, and is in fact plugged on the left side. Nothing will fill first until it rains.
ReplyDeleteSo now I know about "loss." More lost brain cells. But, for that silliness to be on-point, wouldn't you have to reverse the positions of 2,3 and 4,5? Oh, and how can that faucet of tears deliver to 7 with 3 blocked?
ReplyDeleteIt depends. If the water from the faucet is flowing at the same flow rate as the various pipes between cups, then I believe #5 will fill up first (since, as someone pointed out, cups 2 and 3 are not connected. However, if it is flowing heavily, then #1 will fill up first, since more would be coming in than going out.
ReplyDelete1 or 5 depending on the flow rate from the tap.
ReplyDeleteAny connection to loss is a big stretch left to people who see it everywhere.
xoxoxoBruce
Nobody said it was water. If it is molasses or some other viscous fluid, #1 will overflow before the fluid gets through the narrow conduit to #2, much less down to #5.
ReplyDeleteI came here to say the same thing. I looked through the Reddit thread and saw no mention of it being anything other than water. It could even be fine sand. Or it could be water in the faucet, but the containers are made of a good thermal conductor in an environment where the ambient temperature is well below freezing. That should plug the (apparently) small tubes with ice fairly quickly.
DeleteOr it could be acid and the containers made of styrofoam. I think the entire puzzle was constructed not to teach math per se but lateral thinking and reasoning. I forwarded this to the young fellow who mows my lawn; he's already taken AP calculus and is having fun presenting the puzzle to his classmates.
DeleteOr molten plutonium chloride and the faucet is magically okay, but woe betide the poor paper cups and environmentally friendly straws! Calculus?
DeleteAll of the "outside the box" analysis is distracting. A faucet will normally use water. If it was used to control the flow of acid or hydrogen gas, one would necessarily mention that in the introduction to the puzzle. Likewise if the puzzle existed in the vacuum of space, or if the containers were made of sodium metal or whatever.
ReplyDeleteIf any of those oddball conditions are in play, it becomes pointless to try to solve it.
Also, the fact that it is shaped sort of like a comic is not relevant.