tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post890804668630071773..comments2024-03-19T06:55:13.464-05:00Comments on TYWKIWDBI ("Tai-Wiki-Widbee"): Is the honey you are eating "ultrafiltered" ? Is it even honey ???Minnesotastanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-34458601673845445352011-11-15T16:31:37.446-06:002011-11-15T16:31:37.446-06:00@Noumenon- This article DOES mention a safety conc...@Noumenon- This article DOES mention a safety concern about Chinese honey: it may be "contaminated with chloramphenicol and other illegal animal antibiotics."<br /><br />Other articles I've read on this subject say that Chinese honey has also been known to contain heavy metals.andiscandishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01409153642285844201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-5259124258136655522011-11-15T15:51:22.309-06:002011-11-15T15:51:22.309-06:00Sounds to me like a protectionist US honey industr...Sounds to me like a protectionist US honey industry happened on the fortunate fact that pollen acts as an innate country-of-origin marker, making it easy to block imports. They don't mention any taste, nutritional, or safety benefit that makes pollinated honey "real honey" -- it sounds like the only benefit is to the American producers at the expense of the Chinese ones. Sign me up for some ultra-filtered honey, please.Noumenonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01597461989960782762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-40259630763813406192011-11-15T10:20:29.444-06:002011-11-15T10:20:29.444-06:00@Becky, the reason for filtering out the pollen is...@Becky, the reason for filtering out the pollen is to remove trace evidence (pollen) of the source of the honey. Every area will have a distinct pollen makeup. Filtered honey is almost certainly from China, according to the article, since the is little other incentive to undertake the process beside hiding the source.Larrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-6142594928773906322011-11-15T09:22:55.089-06:002011-11-15T09:22:55.089-06:00No, I think the commenter was meaning creamed hone...No, I think the commenter was meaning creamed honey vs thin clear "runny" honey.<br /><br />But comb honey's nice too! ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-26931226558764237932011-11-15T07:14:05.767-06:002011-11-15T07:14:05.767-06:00By solid honey do you mean honey with the comb in ...By solid honey do you mean honey with the comb in it?not securely anchoredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09979789156769394267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-53788125214709346752011-11-14T22:18:24.876-06:002011-11-14T22:18:24.876-06:00"solid" is not the same as "crystal..."solid" is not the same as "crystalised" honey. Think gooey sugar...vs the creamy solid honey that spreads nicely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-59369830728579873662011-11-14T20:40:25.752-06:002011-11-14T20:40:25.752-06:00On a related note, when did ultra-pasteurized milk...On a related note, when did ultra-pasteurized milk replace ALL of the pasteurized milk in stores? The ultra-pasteurized stuff doesn't work for making yogurts and cheeses. It wasn't until I started looking for regular pasteurized milk that I realized it was no longer readily available.andiscandishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01409153642285844201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-90260059866480647582011-11-14T20:27:39.403-06:002011-11-14T20:27:39.403-06:00OK... comments on comments from a beekeeper. (Wel...OK... comments on comments from a beekeeper. (Well, my brother is, I just lug hives around and get stung on his behalf for a couple quarts of it per year).<br /><br />If at all possible, honey should come from your local beekeepers (even major cities like New York have balcony beekeepers!) Whole Foods or Trader Joe's or whatever doesn't support your local beek, and getting very local pollen might help some people with seasonal allergies (though studies vary widely).<br /><br />Crystallization is more a function of the plant it comes from than the pollen content. For example, late fall honey here in Western New York has lots of wild aster in it, so it crystallizes very quickly. Want it gooey again? Boil a pot of water, move it off the stove, and set the container of honey in it. Repeat as needed until it's liquid again -- it should stay that way for a few months or more, and you can repeat the process as needed. Only those ignorant of how to de-crystallize it fear crystals.<br /><br />That said, very finely crystallized honey that spreads wonderfully (and honey in the comb) are very popular in Europe, but are uncommon in the U.S.<br /><br />Buy local! =)Phil F.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-51878241567978488742011-11-14T15:14:43.098-06:002011-11-14T15:14:43.098-06:00@ Becky - odd, in the UK I'd estimate (from th...@ Becky - odd, in the UK I'd estimate (from the amount on the shelves) that solid honey sells in rough proportion to runny honey.<br />Certainly in this house we prefer it, it's easier to spread for a start, and doesn't make such a mess.Skipweaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12454297424665652387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-74461223050843881042011-11-14T15:11:28.788-06:002011-11-14T15:11:28.788-06:00My family is fortunate enough to live in a city wi...My family is fortunate enough to live in a city with several farmer's markets. We can get local honey for cheaper than the box stores sell it. Even buying food from Whole Foods won't guarantee that you're getting the best food available or even that you're getting what you think you're paying for. Unless you're going to grow your own food, the next best thing is to get it directly from the farmer who did make it.bint alshamsahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00658169355503798587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-33235956405550591472011-11-14T12:41:05.908-06:002011-11-14T12:41:05.908-06:00"No one can say for sure why the FDA has igno..."No one can say for sure why the FDA has ignored repeated pleas from Congress, beekeepers and the honey industry to develop a U.S. standard for identification for honey."<br /><br />Here's the reason: lobbying (and probably worse) in the interests of corporations which benefit from the sale of Chinese honey has more sway over the FDA than its stated purpose of regulating products.<br /><br />You can blame the Chinese - particularly for being sneaky enough to give the packing companies plausible deniability - but they're not the ones packing and stocking the dubious honey.Z. Constantinehttp://blog.operator-speaking.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-62478850700821725502011-11-14T12:35:00.266-06:002011-11-14T12:35:00.266-06:00In the article, they never offer a reason for the ...In the article, they never offer a reason for the ultra filtering. While researching why my farmers market honey always crystalizes, I discovered that it's because of the high pollen in the honey. I imagine the filtering gives it a longer shelf life since grocery stores would have a hard time selling cloudy or crystallized honey.<br /><a href="http://www.realsimple.com/magazine-more/inside-magazine/ask-real-simple/crystallized-honey-okay-eat-00000000011539/index.html" rel="nofollow">source</a>Becky Hargishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08494914769589920611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-75781383458359250502011-11-14T12:26:27.269-06:002011-11-14T12:26:27.269-06:00Okay... now HONEY is on the list of things I have ...Okay... now HONEY is on the list of things I have to buy from Whole Foods too... sigh.. or maybe the local farmers market. Damn Chinese.Brian Kernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17963742379943222036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-50698697248046652172011-11-14T12:21:26.113-06:002011-11-14T12:21:26.113-06:00Transshipping can also occur with seafood from Chi...Transshipping can also occur with seafood from China -- the seafood is shipped to Thailand/Indonesia/Vietnam, and possibly to Australia and New Zealand, where it can again be reshipped to Canada and other countries before being shipped to the US.<br /><br />Caveat EmptorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com