tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post3600103734544146159..comments2024-03-28T12:17:44.126-05:00Comments on TYWKIWDBI ("Tai-Wiki-Widbee"): Consider once again a "pale blue dot"Minnesotastanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-45611576040557889222013-03-24T08:54:39.910-05:002013-03-24T08:54:39.910-05:00Carl Sagan: "Extraordinary Claims Require Ext...Carl Sagan: "Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRaXvPQ-aykStephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15532057646983133660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-63211568942182915212013-03-21T10:26:33.663-05:002013-03-21T10:26:33.663-05:00That's why people with any any interest in the...That's why people with any any interest in the matter should acquaint themselves with Dr. Allen Hyneck.Stan B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17381743002180926900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-90353861682822158392013-03-21T05:14:53.213-05:002013-03-21T05:14:53.213-05:00I'm glad we agree! It's just that I didn&#...I'm glad we agree! It's just that I didn't understand your point this way at first. <br />If by "our best and brightest will tell you straight to your face that we are the highest culmination of all that is" you meant "scientists are skeptical of claims of alien abductions and UFO sightings", I totally agree! I don't think it's such a bad thing though, since credulous scientists are slightly useless.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-67111116861791191642013-03-20T22:33:53.838-05:002013-03-20T22:33:53.838-05:00Dan- Yes, we are both in 100% agreement that what ...Dan- Yes, we are both in 100% agreement that what Sagan said in public is what counts! I've only emphasized that, if anything. He very much was a leading skeptic/debunker- don't profess to know if he ever thought otherwise...<br /><br />http://www.afterdisclosure.com/2012/06/carl-sagan-theyre-everywhere-but-here.htmlStan B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17381743002180926900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-86656861829578786912013-03-20T16:36:39.821-05:002013-03-20T16:36:39.821-05:00The line between debunking and asking for evidence...The line between debunking and asking for evidence isn't all that clear to me, to be honest.<br /><br />I'd like to emphasize the "supposedly" in your comment. I'm not entirely convinced of the reliability of the information in this article. <br />It was written by someone at ZlandCommunications News Network (which is entirely dedicated to UFOs) based on the account of Paola Harris (who is a journalist in the field of UFOs) of her recollection of an interview with someone to whom Sagan "supposedly" made this amazing revelation backstage at a TV show.<br /><br />So do I believe this, or do I believe that Sagan actually believed what he said publicly? I personally favor the second option.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-60285350342697153602013-03-20T14:44:25.494-05:002013-03-20T14:44:25.494-05:00He was very much for the possibility of life out t...He was very much for the possibility of life out there, somewhere (eg- SETI). But he was an ardent UFO debunker- anyone even vaguely familiar with his career would be aware of that. Top scientists Do Not publicly admit to UFO's being intelligently controlled vehicles of ET origin- it immediately closes down their research funding and ends careers (eg- Dr. John E. Mack).<br /><br />Supposedly, Sagan met with astrophysicist Dr. Allen Hyneck (former Project Bluebook head investigator and skeptic turned "believer") to privately consider the very real possibility of their existence and origins. <br /><br />http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/05/prweb3966374.htmStan B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17381743002180926900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-6160438890936419632013-03-20T13:11:20.964-05:002013-03-20T13:11:20.964-05:00Can you point us to one of these attacks? I just w...Can you point us to one of these attacks? I just want to judge what he said for myself. <br /><br />It seems weird that he would just reject the idea of intelligent life forms visiting Earth out of hand, given that he was one of the early instigators of the SETI program and one of the few scientists who wanted to investigate UFO claims seriously. Being a scientist he also wanted some evidence though, rather than rely only on eyewitness accounts. That seems perfectly reasonable to me.<br />Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-56964915698312672442013-03-20T11:40:49.537-05:002013-03-20T11:40:49.537-05:00You needn't go further than St. Carl himself w...You needn't go further than St. Carl himself who rigorously and enthusiastically attacked and ridiculed whoever dared entertain the very notion that anyone or anything smarter than he could possibly be visiting our "pale blue dot."Stan B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17381743002180926900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-12495155175705984192013-03-20T09:56:59.462-05:002013-03-20T09:56:59.462-05:00Who are you talking about? I really don't thin...Who are you talking about? I really don't think the view that humans are somehow the apogee of progress is very prevalent in scientific circles.<br />Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-45098293134229806532013-03-19T20:57:43.770-05:002013-03-19T20:57:43.770-05:00Bigger than anything our miniscule little minds ca...Bigger than anything our miniscule little minds can possibly fathom- and yet many of our best and brightest (scientists) will tell you straight to your face that we are the highest culmination of all that is... <br /><br />As if its very vastness has rendered them impotent of considering something beyond their backyard other than empty streets.Stan B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17381743002180926900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-22345708921336146112013-03-19T08:02:51.348-05:002013-03-19T08:02:51.348-05:00That they have not contacted us, is evidence enoug...That they have not contacted us, is evidence enough for me that, whatever life is 'out there', it is, for that reason, intelligentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-10904940578394573102013-03-19T04:53:37.085-05:002013-03-19T04:53:37.085-05:00Yes, but a radius of 100 light years gives a diame...Yes, but a radius of 100 light years gives a diameter of 200 ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-25202227510609479452013-03-19T01:31:01.196-05:002013-03-19T01:31:01.196-05:00Hoping you enjoy your time away, 'Stan, and I&...Hoping you enjoy your time away, 'Stan, and I'm sure you've earned the break. It must be a lot of work finding stuff for your blog, and I'm sure that I'm not the only person out here who looks at it on a daily basis. There's always something to learn or just amaze.<br /><br />Yes, the size of space astounds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-86340378684988966302013-03-18T17:15:14.119-05:002013-03-18T17:15:14.119-05:00Uummmmm ... it hasn't it only been a bit over ...Uummmmm ... it hasn't it only been a bit over 100 years since radio was invented, not 200 years? Never mind that the first broadcasts were not very powerful either..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-65655168790253539822013-03-18T11:22:53.781-05:002013-03-18T11:22:53.781-05:00Well, yes - Voyager will act as a time capsule...u...Well, yes - Voyager will act as a time capsule...until the Klingons blow it to pieces!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-35470493895481381652013-03-18T11:07:48.916-05:002013-03-18T11:07:48.916-05:00Thoroughly enjoying this blog - you've earned ...Thoroughly enjoying this blog - you've earned some time off! Enjoy.Andy Wasleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17736131041852812529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-3363693128727816112013-03-18T10:58:50.137-05:002013-03-18T10:58:50.137-05:00Unfortunately, we now think that all our radio sig...Unfortunately, we now think that all our radio signals submerge into the general background within a lightyear or two, and so they become undetectable. Nobody's going to find us that way unless a probe passes relatively nearby. This is not impossible, just terribly unlikely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com