tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post2737768752508201741..comments2024-03-28T19:45:08.560-05:00Comments on TYWKIWDBI ("Tai-Wiki-Widbee"): Audubon describes a profusion of passenger pigeons in early America - updatedMinnesotastanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-48218409306853888222017-12-14T12:15:51.955-06:002017-12-14T12:15:51.955-06:00I was birding with a neighbor during migration sea...I was birding with a neighbor during migration season earlier this year. I spotted movement in a nearby mesquite tree and was hoping to spot a more unusual species. "Oh...it's just a mourning dove..."I said as I lowered my binoculars. Just? my friend asked. Remember the passenger pigeons, take nothing for granted, she chided me. <br /><br />It's hard to think that a species so common is gone from the earth, and so recently.Ninabinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-87667192438088830222017-12-13T10:56:58.637-06:002017-12-13T10:56:58.637-06:00these migration accounts are interesting, but what...these migration accounts are interesting, but what about the lives of the passenger pigeons during the rest of the year - nesting, breeding, etc.? what was the impact on the land during the rest of the year? in areas that were not populated (i.e., no farming), what was the impact of the passenger pigeon on the land? were they eating so much that they were making deserts of forests and grasslands? <br /><br />I-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-58524942771757554962017-12-13T07:51:57.841-06:002017-12-13T07:51:57.841-06:00There's a small bronze statute and memorial at...There's a small bronze statute and memorial at the Cincinnati Zoo, where Martha, the last passenger pigeon died. It always makes me weepy it's so sad.Hoosierinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13493660593641988310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-15444710809046829992017-12-13T04:55:41.998-06:002017-12-13T04:55:41.998-06:00Sounds like something Bill Bryson might have writt...Sounds like something Bill Bryson might have written about. (Hi, I'm from the future.)Drabkikkerhttp://drabkikker.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-80718119765856678932013-04-03T07:50:09.236-05:002013-04-03T07:50:09.236-05:00I've heard the same, but also can't rememb...I've heard the same, but also can't remember where.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-6689700116727396902013-04-03T07:45:24.092-05:002013-04-03T07:45:24.092-05:00Trying to remember where I read it - maybe Jared D...Trying to remember where I read it - maybe Jared Diamond's "Collapse"? - but there's a theory out there suggesting that the huge bird population these guys observed was anomalous - an unusual boom in bird numbers caused by the increased amount of food available in the wake of the decimation of Native Americans by disease. The theory is that Native Americans routinely harvested large amounts of the "mast" (nuts etc) for generations, but by 1813, so many had died that there was plenty for the birds. The theory was triggered by a concern that the massive numbers described above could not have been sustainable ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-77431050288336880812013-04-02T22:36:13.271-05:002013-04-02T22:36:13.271-05:00Some people say that the extinction of the passeng...Some people say that the extinction of the passenger pigeon is the direct result of the chestnut blight killing off the chestnut trees in the east, not the result of over hunting. Check out the timing of each event and consider that the passenger pigeon mainly had the range where the original chestnut range was. Once the food supply ran out, then they died by the millions!Corn Dognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-34688882499957456012013-04-02T16:37:50.274-05:002013-04-02T16:37:50.274-05:00I can not read this without thinking about "A...I can not read this without thinking about "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers"<br /><br />http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149Jolynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-29401936205653582722013-04-02T11:43:05.044-05:002013-04-02T11:43:05.044-05:00There are some scientists trying to bring the pass...There are some scientists trying to bring the passenger pigeon back to existence.<br />Just watched a TED video about it.<br />What a coincidence.<br />http://www.ted.com/talks/stewart_brand_the_dawn_of_de_extinction_are_you_ready.html<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-58085457999968088972013-04-02T10:00:40.269-05:002013-04-02T10:00:40.269-05:00I read the whole Nutty Bumbo saga when I was a sch...I read the whole Nutty Bumbo saga when I was a schoolkid. So, when I later found that Cooper's frontier knowledge is at least questionable, it realy didn't matter. Great books to read as a kid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-40777518545909640942013-04-02T09:46:06.831-05:002013-04-02T09:46:06.831-05:00Almost certainly so. This was the range of the bi...Almost certainly so. This was the range of the bird:<br /><br />http://sdakotabirds.com/species/maps/passenger_pigeon_map_small.jpg<br /><br />I remember enjoying reading a couple of Cooper's books - until I read a debunking of Cooper's frontier knowledge by Mark Twain.Minnesotastanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382888179579245181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4912713243046142041.post-52010090125769168772013-04-02T09:39:32.228-05:002013-04-02T09:39:32.228-05:00Does "The Pioneers" by James Fenimore Co...Does "The Pioneers" by James Fenimore Cooper describe the same species? I've read it a long time ago and still remember the pigeon hunting scene...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com